1 beer to cellar almost forever

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by anteater, Jul 29, 2013.

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  1. anteater

    anteater Crusader (767) Sep 10, 2012 Oregon
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    So I had the opportunity to chat with the owner of a truly excellent beer bar and restaurant. He mentioned that he had a 1993 Cantillon Gueuze in his cellar.

    This got me thinking... if I want to have a 20 year old version of any beer I better get it soon so I don't have to wait even longer. I'm 23 right now and I like the idea of holding onto something very special for a very long time. Not forever, but maybe in 20+ years for a very special occasion.

    So my question is what beer would you buy right now to hold on to for that long?
  2. stupac2

    stupac2 Zealot (518) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    Gueuze. Probably 3F, but Hannsens and Cantillon hold up too, I would assume Tilquin does as well. Beersel doesn't seem to but I've only had old ones once.

    Outside of gueuze either a quad (Rochefort or Bernardus are all over the place) or an English Barleywine/Old Ale, like JW Lee's.
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  3. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    De Dolle might be an option. Oerbier, Stille Nacht, or the reserve versions.
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  4. jedwards

    jedwards Initiate (2) Feb 3, 2009 California

    Lambic is a great answer, if you like aged lambic. It changes less than many other styles, but well-aged old lambic really is sublime.

    For a non-lambic answer, I absolutely second De Dolle, especially Stille Nacht. The new vintages have a great slow souring and seem to be following the path of the pre-2000 bottles, turning into a really sublime balance between sour and sweet. Other good options for aging in that timeframe include the better quads that stupac2 mentions, along with the J.W. Lee's harvest ale. I personally think that North Coast Old Stock will go the distance, though there aren't any 20-year old bottles yet... Bell's Third Coast Old Ale is another accessible American option. A few wildcards that I'm optimistic about are A. Le Coq (by Harvey & Sons), Upright Billy the Mountain, the barleywine/old ale vintages of Alesmith Decadence, and the Bruery anniversary beers.
  5. anteater

    anteater Crusader (767) Sep 10, 2012 Oregon
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    Thanks for the great suggestions everybody! I actually have a few of these aging already - Hannsen's Oude Gueuze, 2006 J.W. Lee's, Rochefort 10, 120 Minute, World Wide Stout, and Bruery Bois (which says right on the label that it can be aged for decades) are all candidates for extensive aging right now.
  6. Stevedore

    Stevedore Poo-Bah (3,627) Nov 16, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Agreed with Gueuze. I'm going to cellar a couple Cantillon 100% Gueuze from this year if I get my hands on some more. I get married this year, I graduate medical school, etc. etc. so this will be a good year to remember.
  7. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Aspirant (279) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    I've not had any with serious age on them but Courage imperial stout and its predecessors are routinely opened with 20 or more years on them. Ditto with Thomas Hardys. I third the JW Lees recommendations. Rochefort 10 is a beer that barely changed in 2 years for me so I could see it lasting a while.
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  8. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    If your goal is to just hit the 20 year mark or more just grab a '94 or '95 Sam Adams Triple Bock. Though don't ever actually consume it on purpose.
  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Defender (654) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana

    No Thomas Hardy fans for the win on your deathbed?
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  10. jedwards

    jedwards Initiate (2) Feb 3, 2009 California

    It's great stuff, but you can't buy it anymore!
  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Defender (654) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana

    I guess I should buy my liquor store out of the stuff then. :slight_smile:
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  12. CowsandBeer

    CowsandBeer Devotee (481) Sep 24, 2012 Nebraska
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    I just graduated and will be paying back for about 20 years. Been thinking of saving a few beers for that one day when I've paid them off. Hopefully I don't end up with some oxidize mess.
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  13. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    I think Rochefort 10 goes downhill after 5ish years. Not that I've aged cases, but the couple I've had that old have been too old.
  14. yojimbo1

    yojimbo1 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2012 Kansas

    I haven't had any Hotd that old but the 2008 and 2009 Fred From the Wood I had recently were fantastic. The brewer claims that Adam and Fred will age for the long haul.
  15. AndrewK

    AndrewK Aspirant (233) Oct 20, 2006 California

    I had a six year old Adam a few years ago and it was delicious. I meant to hold on to one for a decade, but I think I accidentally sent it as an extra right around that ten year mark.
  16. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Crusader (718) Jan 27, 2013 Virginia
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    Sam Adams Utopia - I hope I can find one very soon!
  17. bylerteck

    bylerteck Poo-Bah (2,904) May 17, 2009 Ontario (Canada)
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    I've had 7 year old Rochefort 10s that were pretty damn good. If that's downhill, I wanna be at the bottom.
  18. futura123

    futura123 Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 California

    No beer you can cellar forever. Even very old Cantillon/3F show oxidization and cardboard flavor. Especially the cork didn't hold that well and it's very hard to take all the crumbles out. I had the 05 Cantillon Gueuze last week and it's one of the best. I'd say 8-10 years are the best for gueuze.
  19. beercanman

    beercanman Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 Ohio

    I plan on some long term for old stock, 120, Wws and Bigfoot.
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  20. mikecharley

    mikecharley Devotee (401) Nov 6, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Hotd adam is a champ. I had an 03 bottle about 2 years ago, and it was superb. All tobacco and leather.
  21. Dajtai007

    Dajtai007 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2009 Texas

    Dogfish Head Fort, tried a 5 year old and automatically thought it go for another 5 years
  22. kdb150

    kdb150 Devotee (462) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Due to wedding leftovers, I will likely have Storm King cellared for a decade or 2. It will be interesting to see how it goes over the course of time. At 6 months it was gross, but I find most hoppy stouts and barleywines go through a gross time at 6 months to a year as they take on a stale hops flavor due to hoppyness that has partially faded to the point that the beer is all out of whack.
  23. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Poo-Bah (3,531) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    I've got a similar plan - 4 years, 3 months to go. That, and I plan on taking my loan payment for the following month and doing an open bar for some close friends - $800 should go pretty far and I don't have that many close friends :wink:
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  24. CowsandBeer

    CowsandBeer Devotee (481) Sep 24, 2012 Nebraska
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    I promise I learned how to proofread in college.
    I heard Rodenbach will last a few years, so I need to pick up some bottles.

    Do it man! Isn't it awesome what you can do with the money you use for student loans?
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  25. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Poo-Bah (3,531) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    It certainly is, but I have to say that if I didn't make the investment I did in my education, I probably couldn't have been able to try so many quality beers, among other things.
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  26. Corbet

    Corbet Initiate (164) Nov 7, 2010 Michigan
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    I should track down a 1987 Gueuze to drink on my deathbed (I was born in 1987).
  27. OldPenguinHunter

    OldPenguinHunter Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2010 California

    The Brewery annual Solera beers: Cuir, Fruet, Bois, these are the beers that I am just going to hold onto and pick up every year, It's going to be a pretty epic day when I pop a 20+ year old Fruet...
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  28. Skull40

    Skull40 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2010 Indiana

    Bell's Expedition Stout
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  29. PerHops

    PerHops Devotee (468) Apr 5, 2011 California
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    It's funny that you say that. I was about to open an expedition today that I've had for about a year. I then decided it would be one that I put in the deepest corner and forget about for a decade or more!
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  30. Skrypt

    Skrypt Aspirant (216) Mar 8, 2010 Florida
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    The longest cellared bottle in my collection is an Expedition Stout.
  31. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Poo-Bah (2,272) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    Yeah, gueuze is a beer style that has a reputation for cellaring longevity. I have heard of Gueuze that ages well for 20 yrs!!!! And i cant recall, but I had a bottle of Gueuze that says on the label ages well for up to 20 years. Another option would be Sam Adams Utopias if you prefer high ABV. Since Utopias is flat or still in regaurds to carbonation it will hold up for a very long time and develop complexities along the way.
  32. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Poo-Bah (2,272) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    Adam is a great recommendation as well. Along with alot of the HotD line up. Allan Spirits brews all his beers to cellar.
  33. C_Roetting

    C_Roetting Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2013 Kentucky
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    You will be risking oxidation, but a celebration beer for something really big can be worth the risk.

    I would suggest beers with high ABV and low hop profiles (JW Lee's, Thomas Hardy's if you can find it, Courage, Solera series; all fantastic suggestions from people), and also sours (Lambic and Geuze in particular). Maybe pick up another bottle of it every few years (3-5 years maybe). This way if the really old ones suffer from oxidation or something else, you still have some others to open. Could also make for an interesting vertical.
  34. errantnight

    errantnight Meyvn (1,071) Jul 7, 2005 Iowa
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    love blue dot around 5 years.

    ruth not until about 10.
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  35. CityofBals

    CityofBals Initiate (0) Sep 12, 2012 Illinois

    I'd say geuze really hit's it's stride around 30-35 years. Needs to be properly stored at the right temperatures, and it needs to be in a keg.
  36. BlackNote

    BlackNote Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Michigan
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  37. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    Rodenbach is now pasteurized and no longer good for aging.
  38. CowsandBeer

    CowsandBeer Devotee (481) Sep 24, 2012 Nebraska
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    I had heard that Alexander lasted a good while. Google tells me it's no longer made, though. Bummer!
  39. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Bell's Expedition and Third Coast Old Ale are both tremendous as they approach 20 years old.
  40. Phillyz

    Phillyz Initiate (0) May 20, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Where have you been drinking 35 year old kegs?!
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