10 Gallon batches

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  1. brewdawg9

    brewdawg9 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2008 Oregon

    Up until now I've brewed strictly 5 gallon batches, but this weekend I want to increase the volume to 10 gallons. What advice does the BA community have in reguards to increasing my grain bill, mash-in time, starter size, etc... I would think theres' more to getting the best results than simply doubling my ingredients.
    Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!!
     
  2. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    double your ingredients, use a yeast calculator, have at least 2-3gal extra in your kettle on top of your preboil volume
     
  3. brewdawg9

    brewdawg9 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2008 Oregon

    Thanks. I feel confident in my kettle (16 gallon), so the extra space should not pose a problem.
     
  4. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    And you have to drink a lot of the same beer :astonished:
     
  5. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Not quite. I brew 10 gallons at a time. I split the batch between two fermentation buckets. I will usualy pitch two different yeast strains and sometimes I'll dry hop a batch. I especialy like it for Pale Ales pitching an English yeast in one and a Belgian strain in the other.
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    It may be a different beer, but it's still got calories.
    I think the biggest difference is cleanup...with a CFC on the 10 gal recirc setup, everything just seems to take longer.
    I brew both...10 gal most of the year and 5 gal inside in the winter (yes, I'm a pussy:slight_smile: )
     
  7. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    That's a creativity premierpro style. :slight_smile:
     
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  8. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,409) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Nowhere near twice as long, though. And setup and breakdown is the same, either way. Overall, you get twice as much beer for an investment of, maybe, 10% more time and effort.
    Same here (except for the pussy part:stuck_out_tongue:)
     
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  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Many hands make light work.


    What I learned from my first 10 gal batch:
    I needed a taller brewstand. After cooling, 10 gal is too heavy to pour into fermenters. I have no ball valve and go over the top of my kettle. My stand was really low and racking took FOREVER! Use cinder blocks if you need to get your stand up to a reasonable height for racking later.

    If your mash tun is inside like mine, you need to make a few trips out to the kettle with 3 or 4 gal, instead of trying to move 12 gal of wort down steps and to the brewstand in the garage.

    I guess what I'm getting at is make sure your workload can be broken up and that you aren't in a position that you need to try to lift 80+ pounds of hot/cold wort.

    Hopefully you've sank a little more money into ball valves/brewstands than I have. I usually do 5 gal batches. :slight_smile:
     
  10. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,946) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I have a 15 gallon pot. When I do 5 gallon batches I never worry about boilovers. When I do 10 gallon batches I usually start with about 14 gallons, boilovers are a distinct possibility :slight_smile:

    This past summer I did a lot of split batches with english yeast and saison yeast using a basic pale ale grain bill and different hops. I really like citrusy hops and 3724
     
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  11. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    As already mentioned, use gravity for dealing with the added weight. This is what I did when I went to 18 gallon batches.

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    A pump and plate chiller help too. www.brew365.com has a handy water calculator and www.beertools.com is a good site to join for calculating bigger batches.
     
  12. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    And a nice march pump too :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,336) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I figure in the same amount of boil off on my 10 gallon batches as I do my 5 gallon batches.
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,055) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's the way to do it. Boil-off is mostly a function of the vigor of the boil and the kettle geometry, not how much wort is underneath.
     
  15. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    I might not have been very clear, I talking more about extra kettle capacity than wort volumes
     
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  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I think the big difference on 10 gal batches is the ball valve on the kettle and also post-boil hoses (and pumps if you have them)...once you go 10 gal, you MUST have a ball valve and post-boil hoses and then must sanitize them thoroughly...(add out of kettle cooler also...plate or CFC, for most people)...the sanitation just seemed so much easier on 5 gal batches.
     
  17. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,409) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I start the whirlpool before I turn off the burner. Sanitation is not an issue.
     
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  18. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Sanitation is ALWAYS an issue...I do the same, but when wort is leaving the kettle in cool down mode there is no burner...which requires me to recirc boiling water after dumping to fermenters (even though I know it will get boiled before the next batch)...haven't had a problem yet with that "best practice". Cheers
     
  19. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,853) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Good advice above; it's pretty much just doubling the 5 gallon procedure, except you must have a plan for dealing with the extra weight of a bigger batch (can you lift it? Maybe. Should you? Hell No, even with help). The ball valve is what you really want but you can siphon with a little patience and maybe a larger diameter hose.

    Something I often do with 10 gallon batches to make things more interesting is to keg 5 gallons and bottle condition the rest. You'd be surprised how different the two can be, or not, depending on the beer.
     
  20. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,409) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Sorry, I'm not following you. All the hoses are sanitized by the boiling wort. There's no need to sanitize the hoses after the wort is moved to the fermenters.

    And, not to pick nits, but "best practice" refers to a method or technique that has consistently shown results superior to those achieved with other means. Sanitizing hoses after you use them is not 'best practice'; it's irrelevant.
     
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