116 Beer IPA Blind Taste Test

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  1. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I don't think you can make an assumption about "perceived better" list of IPAs without fulling knowing the extent of the competition at GABF... which I think was part of your point.

    To the Paste article's detriment, we can see what breweries are missing that have won medals at the GABF or other competitions

    Off the top of my head:
    • Columbus brewing
    • Laurelwood
    • Barley Browns
    • Beachwood
    • Half Acre
    • La Cumbre
    • Alpine
    • Fat Heads
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    My guess is the order was randomized so as not to damage the reputations of the breweries and to maintain good will of the breweries who didn't qualify for the final rounds. Would you want one of your kids to become last in their class?
     
  3. dj14365

    dj14365 Aspirant (293) Feb 7, 2015 Alabama

    It's a solid IPA, honestly it's the one that got me into the style. It doesn't have many super intense flavors which probably why it has a lower rating then what you might expect. Doesn't hold a candle to snakehandler though.

    I can't believe that Brew Kettle was number 1. I use to live about 15 min south of it. A group from my neighborhood always went up there to brew there own stuff.
     
  4. jampics2

    jampics2 Pooh-Bah (2,414) Dec 19, 2008 Ohio
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    Unless the breweries supply the samples, I would take the results of any of these tastings with a grain of salt. A week or two of freshness or warm vs cold storage conditions can make all the difference.
     
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  5. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    sure they are, it just depends on what you consider professional. the GABF says the beers are judged by a professional judge panel.
     
  6. klawburke

    klawburke Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2013 Massachusetts

    No, I would want my kid to be sorted alphabetically

     
  7. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    They also descibe what is meant by that, i.e., the qualifcations of the panelists is that they are professionals associated with beer, but not professional judges. and not all have been through the BJCP training course, etc. e.g., Brewery owners, beer writers, etc.
     
  8. kevanb

    kevanb Pooh-Bah (2,705) Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
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    Sad to see Blind Pig from Russian River sitting out in the "Field" personally my favorite of everything that was listed, but very cool to see some of my local guys high up in the ratings, especially Spiteful.
     
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  9. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    We'll have to ask the author there, but for some people randomization is the way to prevent others from drawing erroneous inferences...
     
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  10. almostjay

    almostjay Initiate (0) May 24, 2008 Virginia

    I want to be surprised that Fort George Vortex is that high on the list, but I participated in a blind tasting of Oregon IPAs a few months back and it placed #2 in my rankings (behind Breakside IPA, which for whatever reason still seems to be underrated around here). I enjoy both Barley Brown's Pallet Jack and Boneyard's RPM more than Vortex in "regular" situations, but that's the nature of blind tests right? It's also good to see some workhorse IPAs like Two Hearted and Centennial getting some love - it's way too easy to overlook those excellent brews.

    Also, for some context, the tasting I did consisted of 12 beers. That was WAY too many for me. By the end of it I couldn't taste anything. 10 beer heats might sound reasonable but that's still a lot in my eyes. I'd feel much better about picking a winner amongst 4-5 beers max I think.
     
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  11. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I consider that proffesional.
     
  12. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Then the judges used in the article tasting are a professional panel as well.
     
  13. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    Yeah they are. Never said they werent.
     
  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Then what was the point of your bolding in the first post you made??? Seemed like it was intended as a contrast to the article's panel.

     
  15. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    Seems like a pretty outlandish and egregious inference on your part.

    I didn't mean any such thing - just highlighting the main points of my post.
     
  16. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I'm not so sure they purchased the beers.

    from their explanation:
    "Other times, breweries simply choose not to participate"

    if they were buying the beer, the breweries wouldn't be "choosing" to participate.
     
  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not at all egregious. If you chose to highlight that the number was different, and that it was a professional judging panel and then make the point that that was the GABF, you could have saved yourself a lot of words by saying something as simple and easy as "Sounds like GABF."
     
  18. Papaloth

    Papaloth Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 Indiana

    Maybe I missed it, but it'd be interesting to know more about WHEN each beer was purchased (over the course of a week? a month?) and when it was bottled/drank. If beer A is purchased on day 1 and sits for a month when beer B was purchased "fresh" on day 30 and drank, that makes a huge difference IMO (obviously bottling dates also play a factor). Still a great read, how bout that rajah! It's a great IPA for sure.
     
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  19. spacecake9

    spacecake9 Pooh-Bah (2,202) Apr 26, 2014 Illinois
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    Perfect timing! Thanks for posting.
     
  20. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Okay, Jackie Chiles.

    That's seems to be a straight-forward interpretation of your post.
     
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