120 Minute Fresh vs Aged

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by YeahRightt, Feb 25, 2015.

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  1. YeahRightt

    YeahRightt Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Virginia

    So I just picked up a bottle of the 120 today with the intent to cellar it. I have had a 120 a couple of times before a few years ago and barely remember how it tasted. Clearly I didn't find it too impressive if I don't remember, so I figured I would age it this time around. The real question is, is it worth it? I was talking to the dude at my local bottle shop and he said it wasn't really worth aging and its sweetness kind of gets unpleasant as it gets older. I don't even recall its flavor fresh so i couldn't really weigh in, but a bunch of people have suggested aging the beer for 3 years at least.

    Thoughts? How does fresh 120 compare to a cellared beer
     
  2. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    My notes from drinking 3 year old aged at the DFH brewpub, side by side with fresh. However this was back in 2011, can't say if recent batches are different:

    look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

    fresh 2011 version and 2008 vintage drank side by side at the brewpub in Rehoboth. scores are for the fresh batch.

    2011: golden orange in color. huge aroma of pine, citrus, with just slight alcohol. taste is obviously dominated by hops, but it's surprisingly not overpowering. there is some sweetness to balance it out.
    2008 :is much darker, more of an amber color. the aroma is maltier and boozier. taste is sweeter, the hops have faded a bit but still provide a lingering aftertaste. some brown sugar notes have moved in.
     
  3. YeahRightt

    YeahRightt Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Virginia

    I don't want it tasting like a barelywine after that much anticipation, I guess. I know nothing of aging beers so that may be a ridiculous uneducated guess about what would happen
     
  4. Spinaltapped

    Spinaltapped Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2013 Illinois

    It becomes a barleywine. The hops drop off and you're left with an extremely malty and boozy barleywine.
     
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  5. anteater

    anteater Pooh-Bah (1,936) Sep 10, 2012 Oregon
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    I've had fresh a few times and 3 year old once. I can't say I was the biggest fan of either, but the 3 year old bottle was way better than fresh. Especially after warming and opening up a bit, it has a nice depth instead of just being boozy syrup. But it definitely comes to resemble a barleywine.
     
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  6. VTR

    VTR Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2014 Florida

    I had it fresh on tap this year. It was my first time ever having it. I thoroughly enjoyed it but it reminded me of a barleywine with a good amount/balance of hops. I would be weary of aging this too long where the hops fade away because I don't think it would be too enjoyable. After all the beer was meant to have a big hop profile. But if you decide to age let us know down the line how it holds up and maybe I'll start a vertical :slight_smile:
     
  7. REDSOXIPAGUY

    REDSOXIPAGUY Zealot (724) Sep 16, 2013 Ohio
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    I have a vert right now that I'm waiting for a special occasion to enjoy. I have 11-14 and a 15 on the way. I had a 2012 last spring when we visited Sanibel. It smells boozy, but when you take a sip the alcohol is really subdued. It was the favorite beer of the one's we tasted while there and the list included KBS, a couple of loons, and a few others. I am becoming anxious to do this vert. There is a bunch of snow coming sunday so I'm thinking it might happen then...
     
  8. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    I love it fresh on tap but when aged 5 years it tastes like a dessert wine. I really like it aged.
     
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  9. phildow

    phildow Crusader (407) Jan 6, 2013 Michigan

    I might be crazy, but I had a bottle that sat for a year and it almost tasted like apple cider. Only recommendation I can make is to pick up a few every year and get a vertical going to compare fresh to aged side by side.
     
  10. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    FWIW, I had a 6 year old bottle over Christmas and absolutely loved it. It is 100% a barleywine at that point. I've never had it fresh though.
     
  11. Bolivian22

    Bolivian22 Crusader (485) Dec 17, 2012 Virginia

    I've had a quite a few fresh and with age over the years. As a few stated above with time the hops drop off and it does resemble more of a barleywine. That being said I find the alcohol burn very unpleasant fresh and I personally feel that it melds and mellows after some aging. However, I haven't tried the most recent batch though I've heard it's much sweeter than prior years.
     
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  12. HarryHood

    HarryHood Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2012 Ohio

    I aged one 2 years and thought it was fantastic. Can't say the same the times I've had it fresh.
     
  13. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    This is by no means scientific and definitely subject to my memory being accurate.

    Fresh = boozy and hoppy. Aggressive and a slow drinker because of it.

    2.5 years (2012 drank last weekend) = smooth and very little heat. Hops are there but not aggressive. Alcohol is very disguised.
     
  14. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I know it's arguing semantics - but whether or not DFH labels it as such - fresh or aged this beer is closest in style to an American Barleywine. A very strong, hoppy (when fresh) beer.

    I think a better description would be that as the hops fade, you're just going to be getting some more of the complex malt flavors. But it won't be as sweet as a malt forward English Barleywine like JW Lees.
     
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  15. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Absolutely best fresh. No doubt in my mind. The whole cellaring beer thing is completely out of control.
     
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  16. tdizzlegrizzle

    tdizzlegrizzle Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I have a bottle from 2011 and have been weighing when to pop it. What's the longest anyone has ever aged this? How long does it hold up?
     
  17. YeahRightt

    YeahRightt Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Virginia

    I can't really understand how it can age well, regardless of what the label may claim, when freshness has been so crucial with other IPAs i've loved
     
  18. TurkeyFeathers

    TurkeyFeathers Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2014 New York

    My belief in aging this one is the high abv allows it to transform to less of an IPA and into more of a Barleywine Just something different from where it started and intended
     
  19. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    Agreed cellaring is out of control ("cellared 6 months how has it changed/how long does this 7.2% ESB age for?") however I think I prefer 120 with a couple years on it. I've only had a 5 year old bottle at the oldest, but I think this beer can make it to a decade. I do like it fresh, but more so once the hope have dropped off.
     
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  20. BEERschlitz

    BEERschlitz Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2013 Michigan

    2 years is spot on for me with 120min. Definitely worth the wait
     
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