1st timer, go easy....

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Qwest_35, Feb 8, 2014.

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  1. Qwest_35

    Qwest_35 Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2013 Florida
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    Thanks to this amazing site which is loaded with great insight, I'm starting my 1st cellar. Here's my list so far, if anybody has any other suggestions I would appreciate it. I'm up to 36 bottles, only have room for another 12 maybe, help me out BA.

    World Wide Stout x 6
    Bells Expedition x 6
    Ten Fidy x 8
    Founders Imperial Stout x 12
    Narwhal x 4
     
  2. OddNotion

    OddNotion Devotee (478) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    WWS I found that 2 years didnt do too much but I do have a 7 year old bottle which I have higher hopes for.
    Expedition I only had 1 bottle and kept it for 3 years and have to say it was one of my top 5 cellared beers.
    Ten Fidy I saw zero improvement or much change for that matter over 2, 3, and 4 years.
    The other two I have some stashed away but have not had any with significant age.
    For easier to acquire beers (depending on if you trade at all) to add, Great Divide Yeti, Troegs Flying Mouflan, Sierra Nevada Bigfoot, Dark Horse Plead the Fifth.
     
  3. bozodogbreath

    bozodogbreath Disciple (385) Oct 19, 2006 Indiana
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    My experience with aging FIS more than a year has not been good. Just my opinion.
     
  4. tommyguz

    tommyguz Meyvn (1,009) May 14, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    First make sure you try each one fresh
    I would go Dogfish Immort Ale and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot
     
  5. Qwest_35

    Qwest_35 Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2013 Florida
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    Thanks everybody. I have access to Yeti and Bigfoot, I am working on a trade for some Pt5 as well. Im not really looking to age these more than 1-2 years anyway. I'm actually thinking about stashing some Burton Batons away as well.
     
  6. beerborn

    beerborn Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Georgia

    Pretty soon you'll be investing in bigger storage space and more expensive beers. Quit now while ahead. If I'm just "experimenting" with aging a beer then I only age 2-3 tops so if its a disappointment its not too much of a loss. To answer your question I've found that beers with the most change over any amount of time have been anything barrel aged (bourbon, brandy, oak, etc..), with coffee, and wild/sours. Barleywines are pretty good too, might just be my palate but normally I don't notice a large difference year to year.

    Hope any of this helps, enjoy your new hobby
     
  7. grumpy

    grumpy Disciple (364) May 24, 2005 Missouri

    Avery Beast and Mephistopholes, North Coast Old Stock, Samichlaus, Great Divide Old Ruffian, Stone IRS
     
  8. csurowiec

    csurowiec Disciple (399) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    Drink the Burton Batons fresh and stash away some Palo Santo Marrons instead.
     
  9. BEERschlitz

    BEERschlitz Zealot (576) Oct 13, 2013 Michigan
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    Burton turns into a nice barleywine after 1.5-2 years.
     
  10. OrangeMen

    OrangeMen Disciple (370) Jan 26, 2014 New York

    Im not criticizing but whats your reasoning behind having such a high count of each? You say you only have room for 12 more....so space is obv an issue. Then why cellar 12 founders imperial stout? Do you plan on trying one each for the next 12 years? I would cut that down first.

    You seem to be into the imperial stouts...throw a speedway stout in there
     
  11. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Devotee (447) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    Don't waste your limited space with 12 FIS, 4 seems like a much more reasonable total. Also, I don't think that you should monopolize your space with imperial stouts. Barleywines, scotch ales, old ales and Belgian quads are also styles that I've had some success with.
     
  12. pmoney

    pmoney Crusader (709) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois
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    IPAs don't turn into barleywines. IPAs that are aged turn into aged IPAs. Barleywines that are aged turn into aged barleywines. Beers don't change styles....




    ....unless you keep them in a magic closet.
     
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  13. pmoney

    pmoney Crusader (709) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois
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    Get more Expedition. Drink the Ten Fidy. I've had it with one and two years on it, and it didn't really change. And sentiments to @csurowiec about the Palo Santo. That one ages very nicely!
     
  14. BEERschlitz

    BEERschlitz Zealot (576) Oct 13, 2013 Michigan
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    Have you tasted a two year old Burton? I realize it doesn't "change the style" but it does happen to change the flavor. So I'm sorry, it has a barleywine FLAVOR after a couple years. Acceptable?
     
  15. pmoney

    pmoney Crusader (709) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois
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    I'll accept it :wink:

    Really what you're experiencing though, is the hops fading and the malt body being more forward. As you mentioned, that a common flavor profile of many barleywines. And yes, I have tried 1 and 2 year-old Burton side-by-side. I really didn't care for them with age, so that won't be something I experiment with again. In fact, the 2010 bottle that I opened at that time was nearly a gusher, had a very aggressive head, and tasted somewhat tart. I'd guess there was an infection issue with that one.
     
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