2.5% ABV

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  1. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    The NA thread on the main forum got me thinking about making a low-alcohol beer. I made a mild that was around 3.5 and just awesome some years back. Anyone have experience going lower?

    I’m thinking of a “saison”. 3 gallons. Using DME instead of grain because it’s a low volume and an experiment I don’t want to sink a ton of time into at this stage.

    20 minute boil
    2 lb Wheat DME
    1 ounce of Cascade at 5 min
    .5 ounce of Citra at 5 min

    Yeast? Maybe Safale BE-134?

    I have some Carapils I might steep for a little more body. Maaaaaaybe.

    Thoughts? Objections?
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have one comment: BE-134 will result in a high attenuation. My last Saison I brewed using this yeast finished up at 1.000. This yeast strain is pretty 'voracious'.

    If you want to achieve a target of 2.5% ABV I would suggest you manage the OG value appropriately. I personally would not count on malt with dextrins (e.g., Carapils) to do the trick here.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. Beer_Life

    Beer_Life Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2020 New York

    Apologies if I'm telling you stuff you already know.

    You might want to look up recipes for a grisette, which is basically a low gravity saison. Grisette brewers will presumably have thought about how to get as much out of a low gravity recipe as possible.

    One problem you might encounter with such a low gravity beer is a watery mouthfeel. Glycerol helps thicken the body of the beer, so you might try to find a yeast that produces a relatively large amount of glycerol. I haven't looked into this for a while but my memory is that both kveik and saison strains tend to be good glycerol producers.

    Rye is another way to add body to a beer.

    You might consider other styles beyond saison. You've mentioned milds, but British brewers were basically compelled to brew a bunch of low gravity beers of all styles during the Empire's various wars. You can probably find stout recipes that clock in at under 3% ABV if that sounds good to you. Another possibility to consider is brewing a raw ale (no boil). My understanding is that this enhances the body of the beer. If you look up Lars Garshol's blog you can find some information on that.

    Finally, the only time I've brewed something under 3% ABV it was a Berliner weisse beer. It was very thin-bodied but I didn't mind. In my opinion an acidic beer can do without much body and it basically functions like a refreshing summertime drink (like lemonade). However, it's not something I would drink a lot of in one sitting, so it sort of depends on what you want out of your beer.
     
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  4. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Grisette’s not a bad idea. I’ll see what I can find for extract recipes. I had thought about using oats (like Tripel Karmeliet (not a saison, I know)) but don’t really have any interest in taking the time to do this with grain. Just looking to bang out a proof-of-concept; to see if it’s something my wife and I would drink.

    Rye would also contribute flavor here, which would be good. That’s why my mind went to saison - the yeast drives the flavor, and it tends to be a light (crisp, not watery) style. It seemed like I wouldn’t be fighting nature too much.
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Another beer style which is typically lower in ABV is Grodziskie. I have only brewed one batch of Grodziskie (so far) but I enjoyed drinking that batch.

    FWIW the calculated ABV of that batch was 3.3% ABV. Also, that beer style is intended to be highly carbonated and IMO that elevated carbonation level provides mouthfeel (my batch did not come off watery at all).

    Cheers!
     
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  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    The Lallemand ESB and Windsor strains have a hard time with sugars bigger than maltose, I believe. If you want low alcohol but want to guard against watery, these might be your friends.
     
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  7. Davl22

    Davl22 Maven (1,341) Sep 27, 2011 New Hampshire
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    I brewed a 2% mixed ferm Petite Saison a couple of years ago. Light dry hop with cascade. I absolutely loved it. Went down like nothing but still amazing aroma and flavor. I’d make sure to use A LOT of flaked grain and have a high carb to accentuate the body.
    If you ever get the chance, search out Jester King Petit Prince. It typically rests between 2-3%abv and is what inspired my brew.
     
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  8. Beer_Life

    Beer_Life Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2020 New York

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  9. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Tannins and polyphenols will also increase body, but you definitely have to take the astringency from them into account.
     
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  10. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Try Dupont Avril if you haven't already (3.4% ABV). Then step up the dregs to do your fermentation.
     
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