2 questions from a newbie

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Lahey, Jul 21, 2017.

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  1. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    Hi, my name is jeremy and I'm an acloholic.... Oops, wrong forum. Ahem.
    I'm new to the whole aging and cellaring thing. Just got a beer fridge as my "cellar".
    Question 1: When people say they age a beer to reduce alcohol burn, does it actually reduce the abv of the beer? Seems if you buy a hot beer, expect it to be hot. Or am I wrong?

    Question 2: Just bought a 4 pack of old rasputin at 15 months of age in the store. It has a little bit of a metallic taste. Should I gobble it up before it turns into soy sauce?

    Thanks ahead of time for any input.
     
  2. Blackop555

    Blackop555 Pooh-Bah (1,706) Dec 12, 2016 Michigan
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    I would estimate you would have to age a beer for many years before it would (possibly) lose any alcohol. I'm no expert but i feel a little oxidation or done chemical reactions cause the alcohol to blend better or masked. I think most times it probably doesn't change it to much, but if you have a hot beer that you don't like what do you have to lose by letting it set some.

    I have not had to good of experience aging old ras more than a year. It's quite delicious from the start. For me i find more soy sauce comes from a fresh heavy roasted beer. Where as with age it turns more chocolatey. If it's been sitting for over a year in bright lights that could affect the flavor. If you're wanting to age a good beer. My all time favorite to age is bells expedition stout
     
  3. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of recommendations for expedition stoute. Didn't mean to buy pre aged old rasputin. I realized it after the purchase (i need to start checking dates. I wouldn't age that beer) I'm more interested in selection at home than aging really. Though rare ones will be aged somewhat to spread them out. Thanks for the response!
     
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  4. Blackop555

    Blackop555 Pooh-Bah (1,706) Dec 12, 2016 Michigan
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    If i saw 5 year old expy in a store i still would buy it. I don't think twice about buying an older stout and i think most are the same way. Just giving you a potential explanation for metal.
     
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  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Alcohol heat doesn't fade, but from my understanding time can let those more volatile higher alcohols dissipate.
    I also get some metallic flavors in aged beers, I have always blamed it on autolysis.
     
  6. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    Hey guy! Some quick advice on aging beer: not every beer is meant to be aged. That said a lot of us have fun aging those beers to see what time will do to the flavors. Further to this point, all beer that is aged should be taste tested fresh for comparison purposes (so goes common site logic).

    My answer #1: basically yes. The alcohol doesn't ever go away, but the burn does mellow out and play nicer with other flavors. Sort of like home made chili- fresh that night it's ok, but the beans really stand out, so does the tomato flavor, the cumin and meat are off on their own flavor palette doing their thing....but have that same chili as leftovers the next night, and wow it really came together and tastes more like the chili you were thinking. Aging beer sort of works on this concept.

    My answer #2: it's your choice. Aging raspy longer won't necessarily "make it better" as this logic is purely subjective. Referring to answer #1, do you like day old chili or week old chili? Raspy is a good shelf beer to experiment with for aging- buy some, age one at room temp, and age one in the fridge for 3 months-- do you notice any difference between the two, and if so which one do you prefer?
     
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  7. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I just want to point out for anyone who's planning to age beers that you really need to start with fresh beer.
     
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  8. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    I have seen some older imp stouts and bought them knowing that they'd be fine. Old rasputin, being only 9%, seems like it would be on the cusp of being ageable or worth aging. I hear it's lovely fresh, so no real need to age it. Wasn't sure if the metallic taste was from too much light on it in the store, or the age itself. Luckily it tasted better as I drank it:wink:
     
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