2 vials at once or space them out?

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  1. Timmush

    Timmush Pundit (931) Jan 5, 2008 New Jersey

    I am brewing a Saison in the 4.5% range. I have 2 vials of WL565 that I am going to use because I want to use them up and dont have time for a starter. Since this yeast sometimes craps out. would it be better to pitch one, then wait a week or so and use the other or drop them in both after the wort is chilled?
     
  2. VincentFrey

    VincentFrey Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2011 Maryland

    If you're just trying to use them, I'd say pitch both first. Otherwise pitch one vial, take a hydrometer reading to see if it's near range after a week, and pitch the second if it's really slow going.
     
  3. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Pitch one, apply heat, sit back and enjoy the ride.
     
  4. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Pitch both.
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    One vial is plenty for a 4.5% ABV beer.

    Just be patient with WLP565 and chances are everything will go well. Do you have the ability to get the fermenter hot (> 80°F) over time? That will benefit this yeast/fermentation.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Depending on the age of the yeast, you might need/want both vials. But pitch them at the same time. And heat will speed up the fermentation, but it is possible to ferment with this starin at more moderate temps. Patience is key.
     
  7. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Like Jack said pitch only one vial. If your yeast floc's out too quickly you can rouse the yeast after a week.
     
  8. EOTLBrewer

    EOTLBrewer Initiate (0) Dec 18, 2011 Illinois

    You will be fine with pitching one vial of that yeast at that OG. I've fermented it in the 60's with one vial and a higher OG and the beer came out amazing.
     
  9. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    Wow, lots of different opinions. To me, it seems fairly straightforward that you would pitch both: the first stage of fermentation is in many ways the most important, and you want plenty of healthy yeast onhand. You can always buy another vial and add it later if need be.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That's true. You want plenty of healthy yeast. But you don't want too much more than plenty. Although overpitching is generally considered safer than underpitching, it can be taken too far. But whether or not 1 vial is plenty depends on the pitch rate you want and on the viability of the yeast (a function of age, among other things).
     
  11. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    If you have bought two and won't be making two different beers, I say pitch them both at the same time.
     
  12. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Pitch one, you can always save the other one and boost it back up with a starter if it starts getting old (6+ weeks)
     
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