2013 Central Waters BBS

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by sisterthelonious, Dec 13, 2013.

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  1. sisterthelonious

    sisterthelonious Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2013 Wisconsin

    Should be arriving this week at most shops around Milwaukee. This is one of the best barrel-aged stouts out there, and only available in Wisco.
     
  2. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    No, it is available outside of Wisconsin.
     
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  3. sisterthelonious

    sisterthelonious Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2013 Wisconsin

    MN/IL? When did CW start distributing outside of the state? (Can you tell I don't want to share?)
     
  4. JRBecks

    JRBecks Disciple (310) Apr 3, 2012 Illinois
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    Def get it in IL(Chicago area at least)
     
  5. sisterthelonious

    sisterthelonious Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2013 Wisconsin

    As much as it pains me to share CW BBS & BBBW with you southerners, it is a great beer and deserved to be enjoyed as widely as possible. You still have to drive here for NG.
     
  6. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 Illinois

    A couple years back. We have been getting the BBS for the last two years.
     
  7. nickapalooza86

    nickapalooza86 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2010 Wisconsin
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    Ya I live on the border of WI/MN and the store on the MN side gets the Central Waters barrel beers, they charge to much for them but they do get them. Got to love Central Waters, throws out kick ass barrel beers in and even more kick ass format and an extremely kick ass price, all and all I would say they are kick ass!
     
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  8. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (3,034) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    CW distros to WI, MN, parts of IL, and parts of PA according to seekabrew.
     
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  9. sisterthelonious

    sisterthelonious Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2013 Wisconsin

    For some crazy reason I thought they were Wisco only. Most of their mainline stuff is meh-to-ok. Illumination is good, but way to expensive. Sits on the shelves for a long time, not so great for that beer. The barleywines and stouts are incredible.
     
  10. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (3,034) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I happen to really like the cherry stout. I need to pay attention when it comes out. For some reason I really like cherry flavor in stouts. Drinking a Bells cherry stout tonight.
     
  11. sisterthelonious

    sisterthelonious Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2013 Wisconsin

    I haven't gotten my hands on the cherry stout yet- usually comes out the same time as the bbs. Haven't tried Bell's yet- price point scared me away. Maybe I'll luck upon a single bottle somewhere to give it a shot. Hoarding a bomber of 2012 BCBS rye/cherries.
     
  12. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (6,194) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    we have distro in Minneapolis but you are right for the money 1 of the best
     
  13. Shakory

    Shakory Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Wisconsin

    drank some last night, it was alright..not as good as last year IMO
     
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  14. techster14

    techster14 Initiate (118) Apr 11, 2006 Wisconsin

    Agreed. Had my first 2013 the other night and it was thinner than usual. Bourbon was still in your face though!
     
  15. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (3,034) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    No BB Cherry Stout this year?
     
  16. Shakory

    Shakory Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Wisconsin

    wondering the same thing ^
     
  17. stevegoz

    stevegoz Disciple (303) May 5, 2008 Illinois
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    Cherry usually comes out when BBA barleywine does, if memory serves.
     
  18. misterid

    misterid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 Wisconsin

    shtick?
     
  19. s_wit

    s_wit Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2012 Wisconsin

    I think you are right. I am pretty sure it wasn't available until January last year.
     
  20. shredder83

    shredder83 Disciple (375) Feb 21, 2013 Illinois

    I'm pysched to hopefully get CW bbs soon here. Just fyi in october I finally drank my bcbs cherry rye and while it was delicous there wasn't as much cherry flavor as I hoped for. I guess maybe over time it fades, drink that bad boy soon!! Cheers.
     
  21. fluff_head

    fluff_head Initiate (71) Nov 29, 2013 Wisconsin
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    I was just told Milwaukee Whole Foods will have it on Friday
     
  22. orangestorm87

    orangestorm87 Initiate (86) Dec 12, 2013 Wisconsin
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    I was just at Woodman's in Oak Creek, and talking with the Beer Rep, he said they should have it ready to put on shelves by Thursday.

    Just remember to leave me some!
     
  23. teamwiggum

    teamwiggum Meyvn (1,014) Nov 30, 2008 Wisconsin
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    In stock at Milwaukee Discount Liquor. $12.99/4 pack, no limit that I could see (I grabbed four 4 packs).
     
  24. Infinite1

    Infinite1 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2010 Illinois

    Trade ?
     
  25. Vav

    Vav Aspirant (272) Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    Should hit in Chicago next week.
     
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  26. lowbit

    lowbit Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2013 Wisconsin

    Have to disagree with you on this one. We cracked a couple of bottles last night, and the consensus was that this year's batch had a noticeably thicker/silkier mouthfeel compared to previous years. Not quite on par with BCBS, but definitely headed in that direction.
     
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  27. Drew26

    Drew26 Aspirant (235) Nov 2, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Agree with above. Thought it was a bit thicker than last years...a little less carbonated as well, which I thought was a good thing. Now, I loved last year's version as well, but preferred the 2013.
     
  28. SkippyChop

    SkippyChop Initiate (73) Jan 31, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Anyone notice an off flavor on the finish? I got a 4-pack at the brewery when it was first bottled last month and it just wasn't right. I had it on tap in Madison last week and same thing. The finish was dry/leathery - almost like an absence of flavor. I had my last bottle a couple of nights ago and it tasted better. I wonder what it is, and why the off flavor seems to be dissipating over time. I noticed the same thing with the bourbon barrel scotch ale earlier this year, which also got better over time.
     
  29. Ri0

    Ri0 Poo-Bah (3,034) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I always considered that to be from the oak. Seriously, have you ever put a fresh piece of oak in your mouth? It has a dry/bitter/leather flavor.
     
  30. SkippyChop

    SkippyChop Initiate (73) Jan 31, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Thanks for the tip, but I'm not sure that's it. I shared a bottle with a group of barrel aged beer aficionados and nobody picked up oak in the flavor - everyone thought it just tasted "off". But the last bottle I had tasted pretty much as expected for CW bourbon barrel stout. I wonder if it has something to do with how the barrels are emptied. Do they pressurize the barrels with CO2 or nitrogen or something in order to push all of the beer out of a barrel? And does that add some sort of weird flavor to the beer that would dissipate over a few weeks?
     
  31. BullBearHawk

    BullBearHawk Aspirant (220) Jun 24, 2013 Illinois
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    I totally agree with the bourbon barrel scotch ale. Tasted all over the place at first but after a few months it tasted fantastic. Haven't tried the BBS yet.
     
  32. mdomask

    mdomask Aspirant (208) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    I'm drinking one side-by-side with a BCBS right now. BCBS is just a different league. Much thicker, much richer, much more complex. Neither of my parents are beer drinkers, but both like to sample stuff I bring up during the holidays. Both picked up the difference between the BBS and BCBS right away.

    I picked the BBS up at Woodman's in Kenosha yesterday, and it looked like they had plenty, for reference.
     
  33. lowbit

    lowbit Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2013 Wisconsin

    No question that BCBS is still significantly thicker than CWBBS, and it may be richer (depending on your definition of "richer"), but I'd argue that which one is more complex is very debatable at this point. While base BCBS is unquestionably a great beer, the thickness makes it a bit overwhelming and one-note, while the CWBBS consistency gives the flavors more room to spread out and distinguish themselves.

    We polished off a growler of BCBS last weekend, and by the end pretty much everyone was tired of the taste; if it had been CWBBS I don't think that would have been the case.
     
  34. misterid

    misterid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 Wisconsin

    have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
     
  35. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    I'm guessing they do it the same way they do all beer. Probably pump the beer from the barrel into a brite tank, fill head space with CO2, let it settle into suspension and pump it to the bottling line and fill em up.
     
  36. mdomask

    mdomask Aspirant (208) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    The BBS was much more one-note for me. I'm home for the holidays and both my parents (non-beer drinkers) had the same comments independent of each other after taking a few sips.

    BBS had more of a piney hop presence, some vanilla and oak, and more of an alcohol taste. Some roastyness/chocolate came out as it warmed up, but that was about it. BCBS started out much more chocolately and smoky, then opened into dark fruit and sherry flavors. The barrel characteristics were there, but much more integrated into the whole.

    Not trying to put down BBS; it's a nice BA stout. It's just not a substitute for BCBS. Having had a few years' worth of BBS, though, it's definitely gotten thicker and richer. It used to be much thinner and harsher.
     
  37. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2011 Michigan

    There are alot of good Barrel Aged stouts in the Midwest...but for me there are three different degrees.
    There is BCBS, and that really stands in a league of it's own.
    Then there is Black Note, KBS, and BBPT5 just below. Not saying they aren't as good, but they don't have that rich, viscous mouthfeel.
    Then there are the likes of Central Waters BBS and Dragon's Milk.
    They are all different, and suitable depending on occasion. But it's unfair to compare any stout to BCBS, IMO.
     
  38. mdomask

    mdomask Aspirant (208) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    Meh, I think it's fair to compare them. It's not like the techniques used to create those beers are so different that they're in different categories. KBS may be more comparable to Peruvian Morning or BCBCS; it's an odd duck out, what with the coffee and vanilla.

    BCBBW is an unfair comparison, IMO, due to the third-use barrels. I'm honestly not sure who else does that, and I'd be really curious to try another barley wine aged in barrels used to make a BA stout.

    Edit: Also, I'm not as big on the whole ranking thing. It's more... here's what I got out of this beer, here's what I got out of this beer, and which did I enjoy more. I catch myself falling into the "want the best" trap too often and forcing things to conform to what I want them to be, not what they are. I'm trying to enjoy things more and rank them less.
     
  39. atone315

    atone315 Champion (899) Oct 8, 2008 Wisconsin

    /Midwest Stout Debate.
     
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  40. PourGuy

    PourGuy Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2012 Illinois

    The wait is over for those around the Chicago-land area!! It's here now. $14.99 per 4 pack.
     
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