2019 Lagunitas Born Again Yesterday?

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  1. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

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  2. Joe13

    Joe13 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2018 New Jersey

    Put the word Juicy on anything and its going to sell.


    For true wet hopping don't you have to use the hops within 24hrs of harvesting? Maybe that's why distro is so limited since shelf-life is short. Unless their liquification process is using hop oil? Possibly similar to SV Hop Hunter?
     
  3. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Lagunitas calls their process "liquification"
    - which doesn't sound like cyro hops to me, which are sold as a powder or as pellets, not a liquid/extract.
    Granted, obviously, Lagunitas is using "wet hops" to make their liquid/extract based on the Born Again Yesterday explanation:
    Back in the mid-1950s, Blatz brewed TEMPO BEER - "First beer brewed with fresh hops not dried hops!" - using a liquid extract made from "wet" hops - well, the creator's patent PRODUCTION OF HOP EXTRACT AND BEER* called them "vine-fresh" hops:
    * A METHOD OF PROVIDING A HOPS CONCENTRATE IN A WORT-SOLUBLE FORM USABLE IN BREWING OR THE LIKE, WHICH METHOD COMPRISES MAKING AN EXTRACTION OF SOFT RESINS AND VOLATILE OILS (of) VINE-FRESH HOPS
     
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  4. vabeerguy

    vabeerguy Grand Pooh-Bah (5,245) Sep 21, 2015 Virginia
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    Especially when you get older.
     
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  5. medb

    medb Devotee (329) Aug 27, 2013 California

    I wonder how similar this process is to the one used by Sierra Nevada for Hop Hunter.
     
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  6. Joe13

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  7. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    From @jesskidden 's links it sounds like it might just be some kind of concentrated hop tea, probably cold processed? In any case it all sounds like a lot more hassle than just arranging for some next day air delivery from the southern hemisphere. Speaking of which does SN still do the southern hemisphere harvest ale?
     
  8. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Appreciate the explanation, as always!
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is the general rule of thumb. When I brew my annual Harvest Ale using wet hops from a hop plant in my backyard I pick the hops as the wort is boiling.

    I have read about commercial breweries that have trucked wet hops from the West Coast to the East Coast in refrigerated trucks and apparently if stored cold they will hold up for 2-3 days.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. Joe13

    Joe13 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2018 New Jersey

    Let me get some of that hop harvest home brew! What kind of bines do you have growing?
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It is a single hop plant and I don't know for sure what variety it is. It was a birthday present that my sister drop shipped to my wife; all it said on the package was "Hop Rhizome".

    It produces a pleasant and tasty wet hopped beer - basically an American Pale Ale with the aroma hopping (end of boil) addition being the freshly harvested hop cones. It is not a beer to 'write home about' but my wife and I enjoy it. We have a mutual friend of Gary who every year comes over to help brew this beer (he is the hop picker). I split the 5 gallon batch with Gary (I give him one case of the beer) and I call this batch Gary's Harvest Ale. Gary is a HUGE fan of this beer since it is a pleasant beer (he is not much of a hop head).

    Cheers!
     
  12. CityofWind_brew

    CityofWind_brew Maven (1,338) Jan 15, 2014 Illinois
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    They just released “phase change” which i believe is a wet hop. Hope this doesn’t replace BAY...:cold_sweat:
     
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  13. deboy922

    deboy922 Initiate (198) Jan 1, 2017 Indiana

    It does replace BAY...lets hope phase change is just as good or better!
     
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  14. mesotheliomans

    mesotheliomans Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2015 Illinois

    Just had my first. I think some will enjoy it more than BAY. But for me, it wasn't quite as good but it's a fairly close call. I really enjoyed BAY so it's a high bar to clear. Still very solid and will be a great beer for memorial day weekend
     
  15. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Either it’s not in Distro here or the retailers are not buying anything new until what they have on the shelf sells. I haven’t seen Enjoy By in forever either, I’m guessing the beer business is past the boom stage, it looks like hanging on by fingernails.
     
  16. Joe13

    Joe13 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2018 New Jersey

    Not sure where you live, but we have plenty of Enjoy By here in Jersey. Saw it on the shelves the other day at my local retailer.
     
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  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    The beer distro here is broken badly imo, I’m guessing things are slow on the retail level and it’s backing up into the warehouse. I’m hard pressed to find regional and or national brewers even remotely fresh. We have a huge glut of 6-8 month old beers on the shelf. I’m just guessing they’re just not extending themselves financially on theses beers.
     
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  18. Joe13

    Joe13 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2018 New Jersey

    More and more people are buying local small brewery beers, leaving bigger companies like Stone, Lagunitas, etc. sitting on the shelf and going stale. Retailers aren't buying as much, and they wait till stock dwindles down before buying a new product. There isn't much brand loyalty anymore either. Everyone just wants the newest "juiciest" IPA. They also don't want to drink the same beer twice.
     
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  19. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    According to the folks over in the "Spoiled" thread we have too much beer and choice, so they think you should see even less beer in your area, this way we all are not spoiled too much. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That would include me. I would be happy with tons of beer brands on my local beer retailers' shelves if they were not so old. Having a lot of choices of old beer is a 'false choice' IMO.

    Cheers!
     
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