3711 yeast, warm temperatures?

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  1. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    Planning to use it since I do not care for dry beers.

    Anyone with experience with this silky yeast at higher temperatures than 80°F? Hoping to use for my 1st saison with warmer temps... I see in the catalog (65-77°F).

    My brewing halted, broke + dislocated a shoulder. Running with a dog (not mine at night) went over him. He is fine. I am recovering fine...

    Don't think I'll get into sours for now.

    Cheers!
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    You don't need to get the temp up this high for attenuation - the yeast is a strong attenuator. I cannot say what high temps do to this ones flavor profile. I used it at ~72F
     
  3. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    You want to use it because you don't care for dry beers, but 3711 makes a very dry beer. :confused:
     
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  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I think there is some confusion here. As pointed out, 3711 makes crazy dry beer (like 1.001). Also, what is "silky yeast"?

    Sucks about your shoulder, hope it is getting better
     
  5. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Yeah.. if you don't want dry beers... don't use 3711.. it'll leave it dry no matter what.
     
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  6. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    You need to reformulate this plan.
     
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  7. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    I've taken 3711 up to 90F. Lots more citrus, lots less pepper and spice.
     
  8. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    You can make it sweeter with specialty malts. It will still have a low FG, but it won't taste dry.
     
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  9. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    I read it leaves a silky feel.
     
  10. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    Reformulate what? Temperature?
     
  11. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    TU! See the ortho Dr tomorrow.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    What everyone is trying to tell you is that 3711 is the most attenuative Sacch strain on the planet. It will make an extremely dry beer, at any temperature warm enough to cause fermentation and cool enough to not kill the yeast.

    Where did you read that? It's not true.
     
  13. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    So what yeasts for high temps and not farmhouse?
     
  14. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    Looking in a couple of the catalogs. NB, More Beer
     
  15. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    Nice TU for info :slight_smile:
     
  16. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    High fermentation temps usually imply a saison yeast, but those have very high attenutation (i.e. make dry beer). Most people don't think of saisons as "silky", that sounds more like an oatmeal stout description to me.

    Have you had a saison before?
     
  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    High temp and not farmhouse?

    None really.. depends on what is considered high temp. Farmhouse/saison yeast doesn't always mean, high temp.

    If you don't want a farmhouse/saison, and don't want it dry, you pretty much picked out the one strain that covers all of that.
     
  18. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Look for the dupont strain.. 3724 I think it is, from Wyeast.

    It'll still be dry, but not as dry IMO as 3711 will be. Saisons are usually dry, so you might want to re think your brewing of one if you aren't wanting a dry beer.
     
  19. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Looks like the words "unexpected silky and rich mouthfeel" come right from Wyeast's own description. It's bollocks IMO. You could argue that it doesn't seem as dry as it really is, but silky? I don't think so.
     
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  20. beer272

    beer272 Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2009 New Jersey

    3724 - very tart and dry. Maybe could load up on IG to overload the saison :slight_smile:
     
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