4 days in primary??

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  1. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    I'm relatively new to home brew... I've done 5 batches that are each 1 gallon. Found an IPA recipe that I liked and decided to scale to 5 gallons (partial mash). When my home brew shop put it in their program, it called for only 4 days in primary and then 10 days in secondary.

    That doesn't sound right... Only 4 days in primary? Has anyone done this before?

    I brewed on 6/19 and everything went well. Hard bubbles for the last 2-3 days... But I'm hesitant to take it out of primary so soon.

    Recipe is below for reference:

    IPA with heavy Citra/Amarillo
    5 gallon
    Target 5.7% ABV
    Target 56 IBU

    1lb and 1.5oz of crystal light 45L
    6.4 oz of carapils (briess)
    6 lbs of DME Pilsen light
    5 oz sugar

    Boil:
    1 oz glacier (60')
    .5 oz citra (20')
    1.5 oz citra (5')
    1 oz Amarillo (5')
    1 oz citra (1')
    1 oz Amarillo (1')

    1 packet of US-04 yeast

    Dry hop 1oz citra and 1 oz Amarillo

    OG 1.052 (target 1.058)
    Target FG 1.014
     
  2. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    It's likely that many will chime in here, but there is no need to transfer an IPA to secondary. You can complete the entire fermentation in primary and then bottle. I usually leave my IPAs in primary for 2 weeks, plus-minus a few days depending on dry-hopping. I would suggest being generally skeptical of LHBS advice, especially in the beginning.
     
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  3. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    Most homebrewers today don't bother with a secondary - it's really not necessary except for specific reasons such as extra dry hopping (most dry hop directly in the primary), adding fruit, etc. Leave it in the primary for at least 2 weeks (up to three weeks), and then, if it is finished fermenting (most likely it will be), bottle or keg it.

    I leave all my beers in the primary for three weeks. That way, the yeast has time to do its "cleaning up". No need to rush if you want a good beer.
     
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  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Just leave it in primary for the full 14 days.
     
  5. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    I've read some of the debate about the reasons for secondary. I'm going to use a secondary for 3 reasons...

    I was a given a 6 gal carboy and a 5 gal carboy, so I have the equipment.

    I've never used a secondary ... So it's partly an experiment

    I've dry hopped in my primary before, but the hop particles just swelled up and stayed up top. I think this is partly because of the trub bubbles holding up the hop particles.

    Thanks for the replies. I plan on doing at least 10 days in primary and at least 7 days in secondary,
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, I can understand that desire to experiment...until you start kegging and realize you were living in the stone age :slight_smile:
     
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  7. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Doing a secondary won't be a satisfying experiment. It's just a transfer. I did it as part of my normal brewing procedure for years with no ill effects, but stopped once I realized how pointless it was. Basically the only reason I did it was to free up my primary bucket to use as my bottling bucket. Then when I rebuilt my homebrewery at my current place I just bought two buckets.
     
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  8. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    the biggest reason against secondary, especially for a hop forward beer like the one you are making, is it can intorduce oxygen unnecessarily. the syphon will inevitably suck oxygen into the beer and it can also meet oxygen if there is too much head space in the secondary vessel. we are all just trying to help you out. do yourself a favor and google search hops and oxygen and read a few of those articles.
     
  9. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Here's some insight to the mysteries of what's going on in the primary:
    https://www.morebeer.com/articles/conditioning

    Regarding using the carboy because you have it: I used to wear lederhosen while brewing until my co-brewer injured himself from laughing so hard. Now it just sits in the closet.
     
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  10. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I find the best practice is to go onto an online forum to ask advice of people supposedly more knowledgeable than you, and when they all disagree with you just do whatever you want anyway
     
  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Give yourself a better reason to use the secondary, like age the beer on coffee or guava, or whatever you think you'd like in your beer (although I'd hate to mess with a good Citra/Amarillo-hopped beer).
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I used to be a fan of secondary, then I learned about biotransformations...
     
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