$4$ trades, but...

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by raynmoon, Nov 25, 2013.

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  1. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    the beer you have to trade is 20$ a bottle, and the beer you want is 2$ a bottle. Is the custom to have the other give you 5 of the 2$ beers, both being equally awesome, or does the difference in liquid ounces become an issue?
     
  2. Gr1mmy77

    Gr1mmy77 Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2013 South Carolina

    It's all $4$... The trade I'm doing is for less bottles, but more expensive ones... I'm sending 4 4packs, a sixer and a few bombers... Getting 4 bottles and a 4 pack. Plus my bruery order which is a side thing. As long as te money gets close it doesn't matter about the quantity (just shipping)
     
  3. ncstateplaya

    ncstateplaya Maven (1,269) Nov 8, 2008 North Carolina

    :confused:...surely I will not be the first?
     
  4. beerindaglass

    beerindaglass Zealot (645) Feb 20, 2013 Florida
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    My question is if shipping comes into play. If I'm trading $4$ but shipping 18 beers for 2 bombers, I'm spending way more for shipping. Is it rude to bring that up?
     
  5. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 New York

    good math :wink:

    Not everything has to be $4$. It really comes down to your trading partner.
     
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  6. JMagee

    JMagee Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2013 New York

    Well, if you're going $4$ it would be 10 of the $2 bottles. (do you even math, bro? j/k)

    But it's never as cut and dry as $4$ or oz. for oz.

    I'd say something along the line of 6 pack and maybe some extras either side would be reasonable. Depending on what the $20 bottle and the $2 bottle was. Just talk it out and 9 times out of 10, everyone ends up happy.

    You can't enjoy trading if you're worried about every nickel and dime.
     
  7. Augustiner719

    Augustiner719 Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2008 Massachusetts

    Strong math skills there bro.

    In this case, usually i haven't factored in shipping costs to trades, however they can add up pretty quickly if you are trading high volumes of beer. My opinion is that only the cost of the beer should be factored into $4$. Trades for entire cases of beer, like trading 4x $20 beers for a case of Heady Topper is just insane imo.
     
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  8. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    5x2=..... uh.
     
  9. Augustiner719

    Augustiner719 Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2008 Massachusetts

    the real question should be "how many $20 beers have you drank already there pal"
     
  10. 7clutch

    7clutch Zealot (556) Sep 14, 2012 Florida
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    Most questions on this subforum drive me nuts and seem to inevitably be auctions or ppl hoping to get pity and manipulate someone into being generous. But I think your question is a good one if I understand it correctly. I think what you're asking is if the perceived values of the beers are judged as equal between the traders, then should you have to give multiples of the cheaper beer for the more expensive one? The answer should be no if you're doing $4$. The trader with the cheaper beer should just add locals to make up the cost (I've never had anyone worry about total ounces). I think lots of people try to unfairly use $4$ to their advantage when they have a more expensive beer and are looking for equally limited less expensive beers (just something i have noticed in the trading forums, not saying I've experienced this that often in my own trades).
     
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  11. beerindex

    beerindex Zealot (641) Jun 18, 2007 Michigan

    I would just point out that while it isn't impolite to bring up the difference in shipping costs, it probably isn't terribly necessary either. Fedex rates may start high, but they climb relatively slowly. So I think on the cost front, it probably ought not become too great of a problem. Now, whether you would care to make such a trade is a separate question. $4$ is a thing, but by no means the only thing.
     
  12. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Good feedback.

    Seems to be that whatever makes both sides happy is what applies/ relative value you place on your bottles

    So a $100 a Cantillon may not necessarily mean 30 Heady Topper, but maybe... 10-12 and something extra.
     
  13. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2011 New York

    I have no concept really of cantillon prices but if you're buying off of * or some other site with inflated values you will definitely not get anyone to go $4$ with you.

    Does any Cantillon cost $100 a bottle?
     
  14. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    I don't know, I was just making that up as an example.
     
  15. EJJ1848

    EJJ1848 Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2013 Minnesota

    I recently had a trade which was 1 Bomber + 12ozbottle for 12-16oz cans
     
  16. Skrypt

    Skrypt Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2010 Florida

    Value is not the same as cost. It's up to the trading parties to agree on value.
     
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