A bit irritated, concerns over oxidation.

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  1. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    So, everything about my APA has gone smoothly...until last night. I got some Citra hop leaf debris stuck in the Better Bottle racking/spigot and it slowed the flow down so that only about half the tubing was full of beer. I'm concerned that I exposed much of my beer to O2. My hope is that everything will turn out fine, but it's pretty damn irritating to have the near final step of the process potentially ruin a batch. Tasted absolutely fantastic...we'll see what 3 weeks conditioning brings.

    :slight_frown:

    The recipe if anyone is interested:

    Recipe Type: All Grain
    Yeast: WLP001
    Yeast Starter: No, Vials X2
    Batch Size (Gallons): 5
    Original Gravity: 1.060
    Final Gravity: 1.009
    IBU: 36.1
    Boiling Time (Minutes): 60
    Color: 9.2
    Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 14
    Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 7
    Tasting Notes: Very Tropical, Mango, Peach, some pine, really nice malt presence.

    Recipe: Equatorial Pale Ale
    TYPE: All Grain


    Recipe Specifications
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    Boil Size: 6.85 gal
    Post Boil Volume: 5.72 gal
    Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
    Bottling Volume: 4.25 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
    Estimated Color: 9.2 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 36.1 IBUs
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
    Est Mash Efficiency: 79.2 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
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    Amt Name
    4 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter
    3 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US
    1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L
    1 lbs Munich Malt - 10L
    1 lbs Vienna Malt
    8.0 oz Aromatic Malt
    8.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine
    8.0 oz Honey Malt
    0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 50.0 min
    0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min
    0.75 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min
    1.00 oz Motueka [7.00 %] - Flame-out
    0.25 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Flame-out
    2 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001)
    1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 7 Days


    Mash @ 150 for 75 min.

    After flameout bring water down to 178 degrees, and let sit for 30 min. Then cool to pitching temp.

    Primary Fermentation: 14 days @ 67
    Dry Hop: 7 days @ 67


    Total: 21 days

    Dry hop in primary.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'm not sure what a 'Better Bottle racking/spigot' is, but if you mean you got hop debris stuck in something that was siphoning beer and the input end of the siphon was immersed in the beer, you wouldn't have added any more oxygen than without the hop debris. Or maybe a tiny bit more, if the small amount of O2 in the tubing had a longer time to dissolve into beer as it passed through instead of being pushed out all at once.
     
  3. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    This thing:

    http://www.better-bottle.com/products_master.html

    Well, I assume if beer is flowing down a tube, think water down a tubular water slide, that the air above the beer in the tube means that the beer is being exposed to the O2. As opposed to the beer taking up the full volume of the tube. If the beer had taken up the entire volume of the tube, the air would have been pushed out, before the tube end became immersed in the beer, as it's filling up the bucket/carboy.
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    How big is this tube we're talking about? i.e. how much volume? And was the beer proceeding in an orderly fashion, or was it bubbling/foaming through the tube?
     
  5. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    1/2" silicone tubing @ 4ft length. It was flowing in an orderly fashion, just with about 1/4" of air above the stream.
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    I don't think I would lose any sleep over this.
     
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  7. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I hope you are correct...I want to believe.
     
  8. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    I had this exact problem, hop debris blocking the tap so the flow was reduced and my bottling wand filled with air

    But because I was using a wand I realised that the air was actually just c02 degassing from the beer, so it wouldn't harm it at all, as it has a valve at the end

    If you were just using tubing, then it was probably air but I wouldn't worry much, it'll take a while to oxidise and you can drink it all before it goes bad:wink: plus like vikeman says it's such a small amount don't worry

    If you were using a proper bottling wand then there is a good chance it was all c02
     
  9. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    This was during the transfer from primary to bottling "bucket." I use a wand when bottling.
     
  10. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
    Pooh-Bah

    Ah ok

    same difference really, drink regularly and if you think it's starting to turn then finish it :grinning:
     
  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    It's an APA with citra. It'll be gone within a few months. What oxidation? :slight_smile:
     
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  12. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    And now your watch...for oxidation...is ended.

    And now his watch...for oxidation...is ended.
     
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  13. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Thought I'd update:

    No perceptible oxidation flavors at 3 weeks, which is where I've decided to stop conditioning. Tastes amazing.
     
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