a few cellaring questions

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Bruce606, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. Bruce606

    Bruce606 Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2011 Illinois

    Hey guys, a few quick questions. Unless I am going to drink a beer right away I always go for one on the shelf rather then in coolers. Unfortunately, I currently live in Charleston, IL which offers a very slim selection of beer and they are all chilled. My question is, does warming a chilled beer up to cellar temps hurt the beer at all and is it worth cellaring?

    Other question, can a beer that has been filtered be cellared? From my understanding it is the yeast slowly conditioning the beer that makes cellaring prcatical, is this true? Because I also hear of people cellaring high ABV beers as the alcohol will mellow, does it still mellow if it has been filtered and there is no yeast suspended in the beer?

    Finally, does "cellaring" a beer in the fridge serve any purpose or creat any harm? As of now, my cellar is an exterior closet that has stayed between 55-60 degrees. With warmer weather approaching this will of course change. Thanks and cheers!
     
  2. funkymonk242

    funkymonk242 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2011 Georgia

    The beer will be fine warming it to cellar temps. If you warm it and chill it too many times that may be a different story though. Definately dont leave it the car for very long if its too warm out.

    I haven't aged a can but as far as I know its ageable. Theres probably quite a few Ten-Fidys sitting in someones cellar.

    I think cellaring in the fridge just slows down the ageing so they should be good sitting in there.

    Somebody that knows more, please correct me if this is all wrong!
     
  3. Bruce606

    Bruce606 Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2011 Illinois

    Thanks! looks like i'll have astocked fridge come spring.
     
  4. Luv2Brew422

    Luv2Brew422 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2012 California


    Its not just the yeast that contributes to the aging process. Oxygen also plays a role as it creeps in through the caps or corks. So yes, I believe filtered beers can be cellared. Cheers
     
  5. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,705) Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
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    This is mostly all correct, at least as far as I know. I don't believe the number of times "heating" and chilling a beer really matters, as long as the process is fairly-gradual for the warming portion, and the beer stays between 30ish and 70ish at all times. Also, the post above is correct in saying that things other than the yeast contribute to the aging process.

    Really, just keep it between 30 and 70 the whole time and the beer won't go back, you'll just affect the aging process, i.e. it may be the case that 6 months at 70 and 3 years at 30 age the beer the same amount. If you're looking to really get the effects of aging at a normal pace consistently over time, try to keep the beers between 50 and 60.
     
  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    i've talked with alot of guys who have cellared ten fidy with amazing results. really, what other beer killers are there other than temperature? light and air. a can is succeptable to neither light as it is not translucent, nor air as it is filled completely. cellaring canned beer should by all rights work out better than cellaring the same beer in a bottle. in theory anyway...
     
  7. hoppymeal

    hoppymeal Maven (1,250) Jun 25, 2005 Michigan

    i dont think temp has a whole lot to do with the process. generally, heat will speed things up and cold will slow the process somewhat, but as long as you arent boiling or freezing your beers, you should be fine.

    i've had a case of imperial stout in the back of my car for a few years. living in michigan we get 90s in the summer (probably hotter in the car) and we get below zero in the winter, and the beer is in great condition after a number of these cycles, actually tastes pretty fresh still. i keep it there now just for the sake of experiment.
     
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  8. Thorpe429

    Thorpe429 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,705) Aug 18, 2008 Illinois
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    Expedition? Founders Imperial? Now I'm curious!
     
  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    now i'm just dumbfounded. this goes against everything i've ever heard about storage. but then again look what bretts do for some beers and other wild yeasts do to other beers, one leads to infection, the other to a wonderful brew.
     
  10. hoppymeal

    hoppymeal Maven (1,250) Jun 25, 2005 Michigan

    Founders. Its gone thru a couple summers and three winters so a fair amt of fluctuation and it drinks great. May revisit it again this weekend.
     
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