A question for those with brewing experience.

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by drtth, Nov 30, 2012.

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  1. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I've used flaked rice and corn in several beers. I actually prefer what the rice DOESN'T bring to the table. I've found Brown Minute Rice to be fresher and lauter better than the rice available at my LHBS. Someone on here suggested I use rice instead of corn in a Cream Ale and I was duly impressed...will probably never make a Cream Ale with corn again.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Someone on here suggested I use rice instead of corn in a Cream Ale and I was duly impressed...will probably never make a Cream Ale with corn again.” Interesting, so you prefer the non-flavor aspect of rice?

    Below is from Jeff Renner’s article on CAP beers (Zymurgy 2000):

    “Corn adds more than simple fermentables. It contributes a grainy sweetness and a subtle but distinctive flavor (not to be confused with the sometimes corny flavor dimethyl sulfide, or DMS, which comes from malt). Rice, on the other hand, is neutral in flavor and adds no sweetness, producing a crisper, drier beer. Both are good, but my strong personal preference is for corn, especially when reproducing the rich pre-prohibition style.”

    I must confess that I have never brewed a CAP using rice; I have always used 20% flaked maize in my CAPs. I really enjoy the subtle but noticeable grainy sweetness that flaked maize provides in this beer.

    Cheers!
     
  3. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Rice and corn were used to cut down the protein level in the NA malts to eliminate chill haze in the finished beer. Maureen Ogle is a historian and writer, not a brewing scientist.

    How many people know that the Gold winning IPA the the World Beer Cup was from Kuhnhenn? It was the DRIPA. What does that stand for? Double Rice IPA!
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I have used flaked rice in a couple beers this fall, like the results. For some beers I do like corn. For caps you can use flaked maize with good results. Better results - flavor - comes from a cereal mash, using corn meal, polenta, or grits. The best CAP I have ever had was Jeff Renner's at a club meeting. Jeff is using a pressure cooker, and that adds even more to the mix.
     
  5. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    That's blasphemy!:angry: My last batch of Cream Ale was 30% corn. And it left me wanting more! I'm tempted to keep bumping it up until I cross the threshold of too much. I don't think I'm there yet.
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I put Amarillos in Saisons, too : )
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Ah, the beauty of homebrewing. You can do all kinds of crazy stuff!:wink:

    Cheers!
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    My thanks to those who took the time to post. A very helpful and informative set of replies.

    I think I learned what I wanted to know, which is that it doesn't much matter whether the rice is whole grain or cracked assuming the quality of the rice itself is the same in both cases.
     
  9. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not surprising. We have a NJ Brewery, Flying Fish, that made a DIPA with three different varieties of rice in the grain bill (well two varieties and "wild rice") and my personal reaction to that beer is that it can hold its own with the best of itme. Thanks for the link.
     
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