Abundance of sediment! Is this normal?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by JamesLiggins, Feb 16, 2014.

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  1. JamesLiggins

    JamesLiggins Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2014 Florida

    Ok, so you know, this is my third home brew, but first time I have ever made a beer. The first was mead, then red wine.

    Ive seen sediment everytime, but never this much! I wish i could post a picture, but since I cant ill just say i have something like 3 inches of sediment at the bottom of my carboy. Is this normal with beer? I don't see why it would be any different from mead or wine.

    Please give me some advice. Not entirely sure what to think of this.
     
  2. Jay_Ulreich

    Jay_Ulreich Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Indiana

    Relax, have a homebrew. Its not bad. Let it do its thing.
     
  3. RJLarse

    RJLarse Pooh-Bah (2,375) Dec 30, 2005 Washington
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    It's called "trub". 3 inches is a normal amount depending on batch size and how much malt was used in the boil. Secondary fermentation is a good way to keep trub from primary fermentation out of the finished product.

    Happy Trails!
     
  4. JamesLiggins

    JamesLiggins Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2014 Florida

    well ok but not only that, it is foaming so much that i have had to replace the airlock and re-sanitize and refill it 3 times, is anything wrong with that?

    and when it comes to racking it to the secondary that i would lose so much of what i thought would be beer to all the sediment.. its probably up to 4 inches of sediment by now

    8 lbs of malt was used
     
  5. Jay_Ulreich

    Jay_Ulreich Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2014 Indiana

    Youve got some healthy yeast there. One can always be SURE to lose some amount of beer due to boil off volume, blow offs, yeast sediment etc. Thats why you plug stuff like that into your brew calculator, they are great for calculating things like that, albeit maybe not yeast sediment amount. Blow offs are good IMO, means that you are getting good fermentation. You did well to resaniitze and stuff, although a blow off tube woulda probly saved you some work. I bet you dont lose as much as you think. Even if you do, big deal, its your first batch, and it sounds like its certainly gonna be beer. While 8 lbs of malt isnt a ton (im guessing its all grain 5 gal batch) It can really depend on alot of things, temp, yeast strain etc. Either way, like I said, dont worry about it. Id say you are right to worry a lil, cuz thats your baby in there, but its just doing what its sposed to do. If theres one thing Ive learned from home brewing, its patience. Another thing is to not worry so much. And if I ever did? Well, Id just read How To Brew again or start watching youtube videos. They got one on everything! How To Brew and Youtube and Google are your friend. BA too, of course :slight_smile:
     
  6. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Here is what's going on with your yeast:

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    Homebrewers call it krausen and yours exceeds the headspace so it goes out the airlock, very important to keep this open and sanitized. As suggested, many youtube videos showing this in action. Is your carboy a 6.5 or 5 gallon size?

    The trub in your carboy is protein, fats, hob debris, and dead yeast. You can minimize to a degree by leaving more of this in the brew kettle . . . you will learn how as you brew more (took me a year+). And you are correct that you really want to leave this behind when you rack. You do this by minimizing movement of the carboy before racking. I suggest the night before you place the carboy in the position you will rack from, to include tilting it slightly. Moving disturbs the trub but overnight it will settle (another year+ for me to learn this). And don't try and get the last drop. My rule of thumb is to fill the fermenter to 5.2 gallons to net 5 gallons (a little more if dry hopping) and yes that took a while to learn . . . see how much ahead of the game you already are.

    Oh yeah, welcome to your first batch of beer . . . what's the style?
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Technically, you don't lose beer (wort) to boiloff, you lose water. With good planning (and/or a good program), and a dialed-in system, you can end up with pretty much exactly as much wort in the fermenter as you want. I'm pissed if I'm off by be even .10 gallons (because chances are the gravity will have been thrown off too.). Once your wort is in the fermenter, you don't necessarily have to lose anything to blowoff. Depends on several factors, but probably 95% of my batches don't have any blowoff. I use a 6.5 gallon carboy (not 6 gallon) for 5 gallon batches. Temp control is also key.
     
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  8. JamesLiggins

    JamesLiggins Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2014 Florida

    PortLargo - thanks for the feedback and the welcome. I have a 6 gallon carboy and the beer im brewing is a dark irish stout, and i even put some ground coffee in a nylon bag and let it boil off with the wort so the finished product should taste really good. (big coffee drinker)

    You guys definitely made me a bit calmer - and i appreciated the graph you provided. I just do wish the net amount would be a bit more that what it looks like it going to be. oh well. live and learn.

    cheers!
     
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