Accidentally Used Too Much Priming Sugar, Relatively New Brewer, Help!

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  1. jallen12

    jallen12 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2019 Maine

    I'm relatively new to brewing and am brewing an IPA using a partial mash kit from a local homebrew store. I apparently did not realize this recipe called for extra dextrose after mashing, and so it never got put in after mashing. Yesterday I was on the bottling phase and went to put in my priming sugar and grabbed an unlabeled bag of dextrose (assuming it was the priming sugar), and dumped it in, and bottled the beer. I then noticed a second bag of dextrose, 5 oz, clearly labeled as the priming sugar, and realized I had screwed up. I called the homebrew store and found out what I had dumped in was 16 oz of dextrose (the sugar that was supposed to be added in after mashing).

    The end result is I put in 16 oz of priming sugar for a 5 gallon batch. I did some searching on over-priming beers and the idea of having bottle bombs scared the hell out of me. I took the caps off the bottles and covered the bottles with a little bit of tin foil to hopefully let some of the sugar ferment and excess gas to come off. I have had the bottles like this for one day now. Based on other things I had seen I was planning on doing this for 1 week and then re-capping.

    Any tips you guys have to offer will be VERY appreciated because I don't know what I'm doing very well yet, again I am still learning. I want to save this batch of beer if possible but I also really do not want to risk bottle bombs. If I proceed with the plan I proposed above, should I add a little bit of sugar in before capping to ensure proper carbonation, or will this just bring back the bottle bomb problem? Please let me know the best way to save this beer.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have the ability to store all of your bottles cold (e.g., a second, dedicated beer refrigerator)? If so, you could just cap your bottles and periodically monitor the carbonation level (e.g., everyday try a bottle to see how carbonated it is). When you have achieved your desired level of carbonation then place all of the bottles in the fridge (this will stop the carbonation process).

    Cheers!
     
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  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to the BA site, Jallen, and to the Homebrewing forum and this great hobby.

    I think your proposal to let he sugar ferment out of the bottles is what I'd do, and then re-prime with the priming sugar. The problem is that you'll never know if all of that first addition of sugar has disappeared before you add the priming sugar.

    You could sacrifice one bottle after 7-10 days of refermenting and take a gravity reading and compare it to what the recipe predicted, and if it reads okay, go ahead with the priming sugar. (A second sacrificial bottle may be necessary if the first bottle's reading is too high.)

    Or you can add the priming sugar after 7-10 days of refermenting, then cap them and keep the bottles around 70 degrees and begin the process of babysitting them. After another 7-10 days, open a bottle as a test to see if carbonation is at an acceptable level. If not, allow more time. If it is carbonated, then to play is safe, refrigerate all of the bottles so that fermentation will cease.

    Whether you use the gravity reading method or the add-and-test method, I think you need to babysit the bottles and refrigerate them as soon as you think the carbonation level is okay.

    Good luck.
     
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  4. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    You're not totally screwed but you will need to fix this problem. Follow the advice of Jack and Goose.

    I add that bottle bombs are not really like that. They don't actually explode like a grenade. Usually the bottom blows off or the neck fractures, and the biggest problem is that you'll have sticky beer on every surface. So they don't blow out a wall but still do not put them under your child's crib. Keep them in a box. And keep them cold. A basement in Maine should be plenty cold. If there is any chance a rodent can get to your beer be extra careful with open beer bottles. Again, keep them in a box or similar.

    After you have fermented out the extra dextrose you can use priming drops. These are pre-measured pills of dextrose and they work well enough. For this batch they are perfect as you can avoid racking your beer. Just put in the required amount for each bottle and re-cap. The less you handle the beer the better. Despite what most people think, there are really only a few ways to mess up a beer and oxidation is one of them. Splashing a fermented beer guarantees oxidation and that can't be fixed.

    Lastly, experienced home brewers do not measure priming sugar by volume. It is always by weight, and ideally by the gram. So get yourself a $10 scale and a big bag of dextrose. It will last for a long while. Use an online priming calculator. Basically ignore the priming instructions in that came with the kit.

    Cheers.
     
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  5. jallen12

    jallen12 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2019 Maine

    UPDATE:

    Thanks for all the tips guys!

    I ended up letting the bottles sit uncapped for 1 week with foil. The specific gravity after 1 week was at its target, and so at this point I tried to re-prime by adding a priming drop to each bottle and re-capped them (Last Sunday, 3/10).

    Today was day #3 of having re-capped them and I uncapped one bottle to check on the carbonation. Foam readily poured out of the bottle, and as I checked subsequent bottles, the same thing happened. I tasted the beer, though, and it tasted under-carbonated bordering on flat. I don't really understand how it could produce so much foam but taste nearly flat.

    So, I don't really know what to do at this point. I have the bottles re-capped and was planning on playing it safe and putting in the fridge in the morning. I don't want to produce more foam like that again, as I already lost a decent amount of beer from the foam flowing out.

    If there's another way I should go about this, please let me know! Any tips are appreciated. If I don't have to settle on flat beer, please let me know how to avoid this, but again I really don't want to produce bottle bombs or significant foaming. Thanks!
     
  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If you list that much foam there may be something else going on here. Were the bottles chilled that you opened? Any hardness on the tongue when you tasted the beer?

    If you can get those bottles in the fridge tonight, I'd do that, or at least some of them. And you may want to put the rest into a tub of something to catch the liquid if any of them break. Handle them with care to be safe by using gloves or a towel. You likely will have to make a quick decision on whether these are salvageable or if you need to give up and dump them.
     
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  7. jallen12

    jallen12 Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2019 Maine

    They were not chilled and I didnt notice anything particularly off about the flavor. I just put them in the fridge.

    Also, again, I’m pretty new to this so what do you mean by “something else going on”? Just wanna know what I need to watch for. Thanks!
     
  8. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Hello fellow Mainer. It sounds like they might not have been finished refermenting, or that you opened a warm bottle. Put a capped bottle out in the snow (and in a dark spot) and let it sit afew hours. Then open it and see if the result is the same. Honestly sounds like you are still over carbing in the bottle.

    I have had similar things happen in the past and if you aren't breaking bottles you will have to nearly freeze the bottle and then have 22oz or larger glass ready for drinking. Or bite the bullet and dump them... I have done both.
     
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  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Damn auto-correct!
     
  10. Bryan12345

    Bryan12345 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Texas

    I probably would have done the same as what the OP did.

    When checking the bottles at this point, it’s not necessarily the foam, but the amount of “psssssshhtt” when you open the bottle. In a typical beer some of the CO2 is dissolved throughout the beer and some is concentrated in the head/cap space of the bottle. Super foam may just mean that all of the CO2 is dissolved and carbonation is still in process.

    FWIW :slight_smile:
     
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