Actual cost or average cost?

I think it's whatever gets the trade done. I think either way is fair, although you would probably have a hard time trading $10 bottles of KBS.

 

I think average cost to the typical BA is what I would use. If I bought KBS on ebay for $20/bottle, I wouldn't expect to get $for$, nor would I if a store in Kentucky was selling BC Rare for $10. $6 or 7 seems reasonable to me for KBS but whatever gets the job done.

 

I'd say actual cost if you buy from a shop, a few bucks isn't going to make or break a trade, if you are buying from a third party then probably average cost. If you are getting with $10 bucks then your are fine and if you are generous you don't have to worry about it.

 

Depends on how bad the shop gouged you. If you pay $10/bottle, good luck trading it for actual cost. However, I'd have absolutely no problem trading $25-30 of beer for a 4 pack. Got a trade agreed to last night and he valued his KBS 4 pack at $26. Completely fair. If we valued everything at actual costs, the $4$ issue would be rendered pointless because of price gouging going on at certain stores

 

Work it out with your trade partner.

 

Oh FFS if you don't like what the other guy is asking don't trade with him.

 

Really depends on the beer, the trade, and exactly how much they paid. Trying to trade KBS @ $10/bottle is not going to happen, even though some stores do charge this. $6-$7, ok, sure. With something more limited you may have to go up really high though, because your odds of getting it at a reasonable price are slim.

All of that said, I don't see the point in nickel and dime-ing either way. Extras tend to blow the differential out of the water, so it doesn't much matter.

 

You're free to ask for whatever you paid, but you'll have to keep in mind the fact that the trading market is just that, a market, and you're competing against everyone else who's trying to trade the same beer. You can ask for $10 per KBS, but there will be lots of other traders willing to part with it for $6.

The flip side of this question is just as interesting to me: if you get a particularly good deal on a beer, should you pass the savings on to a trading partner or make an effective profit by trading your bargain at the average price? Doing the former can help you get a trade done by undercutting your competition, while doing the latter is obviously beneficial in a more direct way.

I'm glad that I pretty much only deal with regular trading partners at this point, where cost becomes largely irrelevant in the continual quest to one-up each other's generosity.

 

If I'm setting up a trade and my end is $25 and the other persons end is $30, and if they ask me to make up the difference I tell them to fuck off. Nickel and diming gets you no where and is extremely irritating.

(I am more polite about it of course )

 

Does it work the other way too? Usually a $5 difference is no biggie. $10+ is a big enough difference for me to ask for another beer or bring it closer to $4$.

 

It doesn't work the other way because I'd never ask someone to make up 5 bucks. I would tell them to fuck on though

 

I ask for bottle cost, travel time, gas money involved, and will add for any additional factors like time waited in line etc..

 

That's what I mean. It goes both ways. My original post might've been worded wrong.

 

Your cost vs. the average cost is about $1-$3 difference on average for a 12oz. bottle and about $5-$8 difference on average for a bomber. The cost to ship a box (if it is decent sized) can range anywhere between $20-$40. Why are people pinching pennies in trade negotiations if they're trading in the first place? If you're worried about getting every dollar back, stop wasting $20-$40 shipping beer.

Part of the reason why I don't negotiate trades and when I do, its only for wales (can't put a price on those!! ).

 

I think it's more principle. If I'm trading for say $40 worth of beer, I'm allocating myself $80-90 for beer, extras and shipping. And I'll try to fill a shipper. If someone tries to trade me his beer at the markup though it rubs me the wrong way. My closest shop is notorious in the Bay for charging silly prices, but if I shop there I'm not trading 2012 Parabola for the $35 they charge, I'll say it costs $15. It's all about principle. We know we're paying a markup, but if we pay that price then we should be prepared to trade for a monetary loss or don't trade at all.

 

If you're going to pay ten bucks for kbs just to trade, just don't do it.

In regard to the actual question, just work out those details with whoever you are trading with, everyone is different.

 

Normal trade value IMO. I traded some LP and EH and paid more now than at release, i traded it at the release value. My choice, I lost a few bucks but that's ok.

 

Pretty much what it says above. State a fair price and people figure it out. I have gone $30 for $50 and I have got the same in return. It's all about what you are willing to give to get.

$10 a bottle will get you laughed at for KBS...It is like asking $10 a bottle for Pliny that really costs $4.99. Although some people may pay that much for it.