Adding adjuncts to a standard stout

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  1. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    I'm racking a standard stout (not an imperial stout) roughly 6% ABV into a keg this weekend. We've brewed this beer many times before and it's always a hit. I want to do something a little different this time.

    I'm planning to add coffee beans and vanilla beans, and I'm looking for a fairly strong presence from both. I plan to add the adjuncts in the keg via one of those mesh screen cylinder things before carbonating the keg.

    Any advice on the amount of coffee or vanilla beans to use? Should I add the coffee first (how long?), then remove that, and then add the vanilla beans (can they stay in until the keg runs out?)?

    I'd appreciate any feedback!
     
  2. brchapman

    brchapman Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2014 Georgia

    I haven't added coffee to a beer yet but plan to in the future. From all the lurking and reading, I decided I will likely stick some coffee beans in a hop sack in my keg for a bit to get that coffee flavor. Sounds like a better solution to me than making coffee and pouring into the beer.
     
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  3. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    Yeah, I plan to add beans. I've got some fresh Intelligensia I plan to use. I'm curious about the number of ounces to use for this style of beer (since it's not a huge stout), whether to coarsely crush them or leave them whole, and how long to leave them in the beer to get the desired flavor and aroma.
     
  4. brchapman

    brchapman Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2014 Georgia

    Again, haven't done it, but my plan is to use ~1.5 oz of whole beans for a couple days, check the beer and go a day or more as necessary.
     
  5. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    2 oz of whole coffee beans for 2-3 days works very nice. I can't help you on the vanilla though. Your plan with the screen in keg is a good one.
     
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  6. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    I don't keg, but rough grind 2 to 4 oz per five gallons and dump into the secondary for a week. I use tinktures of vanilla , usually 5 beans in 8 oz of vodka and use 1 oz per 5 gallon or less. If using beans, split and add to keg in strainer for 1 week, or taste daily till level desired is reached.
     
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  7. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    I was thinking whole vanilla beans. I was thinking 2-3 beans sliced lengthwise and added whole.

    So just thinking out loud.....

    after racking into the keg, maybe add the coffee beans and vanilla beans to the mesh strainer and steep in the keg for 5-7 days. Then remove those and taste. If the vanilla isn't strong enough, I could always add 1-2 of the beans back into the strainer, and just go ahead and carbonate/chill/serve the beer. If the vanilla ever gets too strong, the strainer could be removed.
     
  8. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    I don't make imperial stouts. I've made a handful of 6-7% abv stouts and have always tried something with them.

    My two favorites were: Chipotle and Raspberry stout, and a Star Anise stout.
    I've also tried adding blueberries and blueberry pie spices. This one I also added more bready malt to resemble a full blueberry pie.
    I have also added ancho chilis and a red spice mix.
    I have also added coffee and vanilla (I did not like it. But it was more for my friends than myself)

    If you like vanilla and coffee in your beers then your plan should work out for you. There isn't anything wrong with it. I just don't like either of those flavors in my beer for some reason.
     
  9. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    Yeah I love those flavors in my beer, so I'm confident I'll be happy with it. Were your processes pretty similar to what I described above based on length of time and amounts used?
     
  10. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    I can't remember anything about the coffee and vanilla one... As I said I didn't care about it at all.

    My peppers I add at the end of the boil and leave them in the fermenter for about 2-3 days before fishing them out. Same with the star anise.
    The spice mix I boiled for 10 minutes and it did not go in the fermenter.
    The fruit I've bought frozen, heated up to around 150-170 and mashed some up to extract juices and sanitize then dumped them in the secondary and left them there.
    I believe that I added the coffee beans roughly ground to the secondary (carboy) as I was racking the beer in there and bottled about 4 days later.
     
  11. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Yep, you can do that, but consider sampling every other day after 4 days leaving the bag I place. As long as you have a sterilized sampler, all should go well.

    @Roadkizzle did you add the star anise after boiling it or just raw?
     
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  12. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    I haven't done it like you're describing yet but I made a coffee porter that turned out wonderful using a different process. I combined 4oz of coarsely ground coffee with 1 qt of cold water in the fridge for 48 hours then strained it and put it into the keg. The finished beer was racked on top of it then carbed.
    So maybe doing it your way 4 oz coffee to 5 gallons beer may be a good ratio.
     
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  13. Roadkizzle

    Roadkizzle Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2007 Texas

    I tossed the dry star anise in at the end of boiling the wort. Last 10 minutes or so. I'd suggest using fresher stars than I did this past time though... 5-6 years is to long to keep star anise... Although the beer did essentially finish off my big bag that I had bought back then...
     
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