Adding Bourbon Shot for Pseudo Barrel-Aging

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by aslamm75, Aug 15, 2013.

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  1. spaceman24

    spaceman24 Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2008 Texas

    Half a shot or slightly less with Obsidian poured over it is pretty good.

    It's not a BA beer and if you expect it to be, you'll be disappointed no matter what you use. In the proper frame of mind, it's enjoyable.
     
  2. mendvicdog

    mendvicdog Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2006 Maryland

    I had some HF Everett with a splash of George T Stagg added. Fantastic.
     
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  3. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York


    if you want woody elements, try woodford reserve or basil hayden's. woodford reserve has some extra spicy character, basil more straight wood. i bet bulleit would be a good alternative as well. elijah craig surprisingly not good, in my experience.

    p.s. i do this all the time.
     
  4. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    I have to admit, this is a practice I simply don't understand. Seems like a way to ruin a perfectly good beer.
     
  5. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    i believe you. & i'm quoting your post to put something into perspective. i'm pretty sure a lot of what GI has used in the past were spent HH barrels that were most likely bottled as Elijah Craig. some of the better BA 50/50 bottles were the Elijah Craig variants, also -- which, imho, your comment serves to illustrate how difficult or unrealistic is to replicate "barrel aging" by adding finished bourbon/whiskey to finished ale/beer.

    adding it for some characteristics & experimenting is one thing & i do it from time to time myself. as far as true & actual "barrel" & "aging", this approach is almost akin to having a glass, a oxygen tank + a hydrogen tank... trying to make a full pint of water out of the 3. jmho.
     
  6. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York


    yeah, you're not going to get a flavor like BA beer, you're going to get some bourbon flavor, and maybe a couple distinct characteristics from the bourbon you're adding. even if you get oak flavor from woodford reserve, it's still nowhere near as strong or well integrated as a properly barrel aged beer.
     
  7. GimmeGumballHead

    GimmeGumballHead Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Illinois

    bourbon : beer :: bacon : everything
     
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  8. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York


    in general, i do it when the beer *isn't* perfectly good. "this pale ale is underwhelming me, but i usually like the flavor of bourbon mixed with a bland pale ale. time for that bottle of evan williams i received as a gift to come save the day."

    however, some beers really go well with bourbon. sierra nevada celebration + woodford reserve is excellent, and i swear by it(:. piny hops of the beer + piny/spicy/flowery flavor of the bourbon, along with better-than-average malt backbone + woodford reserve's strong oak-vanilla "backend" (if that makes sense; does to me). they go together like peas and carrots.
     
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  9. lilsmizzul1225

    lilsmizzul1225 Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2012 Indiana

    From what I understand, if you are wanting to sell this beer with the "Pseudo Barrel-Aging" it would be illegal. It is "spiking" the beer and raising the alcohol content with an "unnatural method". It is also why a beer company that wants to age with Vanilla can't use Vanilla Extract because it would raise the alcohol (even if it is subtle).
     
  10. CerealKillerKP

    CerealKillerKP Zealot (514) May 24, 2009 Kentucky

    Try pouring some Remy Martin into your Cantillon Classic Gueuze to make 50n 4e
     
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  11. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    That makes a little more sense. I keep seeing suggestions like FBS and Old Chub and other beers that are just fine on their own, imho.
     
  12. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    I actually really like a bottle of Expedition Stout with a 3/4 shot of Angel's Envy, only with a fresh bottle of Expedition though.
     
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  13. SkippyChop

    SkippyChop Devotee (364) Jan 31, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Based on the description of how Jim Beam Devil's Cut is made, I'm thinking that this would be a good bourbon to add to a beer if you are trying to mimic barrel aging.
     
  14. Snowdog

    Snowdog Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2010 Ohio

    Tried-Failed-Drainpour.
     
  15. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 California

    I've tried it and it's always crap. Even spiked the end of my DDBA recently with Noah's Hill. Crap. But I may have put too much lol.

    I much rather just drink them side by side.
     
  16. screamking

    screamking Pundit (839) Jan 20, 2013 Ohio

    Lots of bourbon makers use that technique, I don't think it would be much differnt from any other whiskey, but I see where your coming from.
     
  17. xanok

    xanok Savant (1,085) Aug 13, 2009 Connecticut

    This isn't necessarily how this works at all.
     
  18. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    I recently did 4 drops of bourbon and one drop of vanilla in a Bells Cherry Stout. I liked it well enough
     
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  19. spoonhawk

    spoonhawk Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2010 Iowa

    I am personally of the mind that adding a shot is not comparable to barrel aging. The nuances and flavors added by barrel aging are dramatically different from what a shot adds to a beer. If for no other reason than the simple fact that adding a shot will elevate the alcohol content of what you drinking from anywhere (assuming you are starting with a more robust brew) from 30%-60%. That significant an infusion of alcohol has a dramatic effect on what you are experiencing. Barrel aging as a rule does not transform an 8% beer into a 12% beer.

    If anything, adding a shot will simply replicates an overly hot and muddled beer. That is not to say its a "bad" thing. But its definitely not the same as barrel aging.
     
  20. Armando_Perez

    Armando_Perez Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2013 Florida

    Light, medium, or dark toasted oak chips?
     
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