Adding Coffee to Stout Kit?

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  1. EdRoss

    EdRoss Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2015 Maryland

    Hey folks,

    I normally do some grain and partial extract brews. At Christmas I received a Muntons. GOLD Imperial Stout canned kit from my nephew. Something I probably would not have purchased, but it was cool he got me something to do with beer.

    This kit contains two 3.3lb hopped lme cans. My thought was to take one and brew a 2.5 batch and make this into a coffee stout. Then later brew the other can as-is. If I brewed the whole kit it should be 5 gal.

    I just wanted to tinker with a small batch. Any recommendations on adding coffee to a no boil kit, and not using a secondary ? I really don't want to add any expense to this like $15.00 lb Kona Beans. I have some whole columbian beans on hand, instant folgers coffee, and some Starbucks instant stuff the wife drinks.


    Any ideas would be great!

    Thanks!
    Ed
     
  2. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    My recommendation is to add between 1/2 ounce and 1 ounce per gallon, whole beans, to the fermenter about 24-36 hours before bottling. You don't need a bag or anything, just dump the beans in. Then bottle as normal. No need for a secondary, this can be done in primary. At the lower end of that range (1/2 ounce per gallon), the coffee will be noticeable. At the higher end of that range, it will be quite strong.
     
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  3. EdRoss

    EdRoss Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2015 Maryland

    Minder,

    Would there be any steps I need to take in sanitation adding the beans? I normally don't add ingredients that late in the game.
     
  4. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I would cold steep the coffee overnight and add at bottling/kegging. That's what I've been doing lately with outstanding results compared to adding into a stand at flameout or as a dry hop style. I go with around 4 ounces of medium roast beans, coarsely ground and have had great success. Doing that for a White Stout right now.
     
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  5. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I would "dry bean".. No sense in going with much work, for the same results.

    Whole beans, or lightly crack them coarsely, and add them within 24 hours of bottling.
     
  6. scottbrew4u

    scottbrew4u Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I would cold steep fresh ground coffee as well.
     
  7. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    A hopped LME stout from a can deserves the finest coffee available. :astonished:
     
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  8. icepick

    icepick Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2008 California

    I recently did a coffee stout. Made cold brew coffee a quart and a half water 6 oz ground Sumatra. Added that into a little less than 5 gallons of stout when I put it in the keg. Everyone loves it.
     
  9. Jstonerock24

    Jstonerock24 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2014 Ohio

    +1 to the cold brewed coffee. Have only had great results with this method. I have came to the conclusion that the best mix is 4 oz by weight ground coffee in a quart mason jar and then filling it up with boiled/cooled water to the top and letting it sit over night at room temperature lends a great flavor! I really like Guatemalan coffee in my stouts FWIW. Cheers!
     
  10. EdRoss

    EdRoss Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2015 Maryland

    Thanks for the feedback. I will give the cold steeping a shot.
     
  11. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    I've done espresso shots, and it worked well actually (although I didn't add enough). I have tastes another person's homebrew who used cold-steep (n=1), and although it had a good coffee aroma, the flavour was a bit flat.
     
  12. Davl22

    Davl22 Maven (1,341) Sep 27, 2011 New Hampshire
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    For anyone that's dry beaned, is there a max amount of time you would leave the beer on the beans? I want to get a hearty coffee aroma but don't want any off flavors if it sits too long.
     
  13. bevoduz

    bevoduz Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2007 Illinois

    I've had beans in a keg for weeks with no off flavors. Granted it was a high abv Stout with vanilla, ancho chilis, cinnamon, and cocoa nibs also.
     
  14. jkn09

    jkn09 Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2012 Texas

    I did this a few months back with a stout, with great success. I'll echo what was said earlier: I did a 2 gallon batch, soaked 2 oz of coffee beans overnight in whiskey, left them in for about 3-4 days, then bottled. The amount of coffee aroma and flavor was perfect.
     
  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I think it's more a matter of coffee flavor/aroma intensity than a matter of off flavors. The longer the beans are in your beer, the stronger the flavor/aroma. You can sample and taste to see how it's coming along.
     
  16. Scope4Beer

    Scope4Beer Zealot (677) Sep 28, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Do you do anything to sanitize coffee beans with the dry bean method or just put them in there?
     
  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I just put them in there. I think the risk of infection is pretty low.
     
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  18. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Cold steeped coffee works great in stouts. Only problem is it fades over time. When I first bottled, my stout tasted like pure coffee. 4+ months in the bottle, and the coffee flavor is hardly even there anymore.
     
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