Adding new Beers and not Reviewing Them?

Help Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by ChrisCage, Jan 15, 2018.

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  1. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I do that as well, I also frequently add beers when I acquire them and it may be days/weeks/months before I get around to reviewing them (or putting my review up on the site from my notes).
     
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  2. wingedeel

    wingedeel Savant (1,190) Nov 17, 2005 Indiana
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    I think it is fine to add a beer without reviewing it. I do, however, find it annoying when people add a place and don't review it. Just my 2 cents.
     
  3. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    The reasons I usually do that is that I see a new brewery open and I want to review a beer from them (brewery has to get added first) or I'm planning a trip somewhere and find places missing from BA that I plan on visiting.

    I usually add the place before I go visit it and will try to add a rating/review after my visit.
     
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  4. wingedeel

    wingedeel Savant (1,190) Nov 17, 2005 Indiana
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    That scenario is certainly understandable. There are however places that were added some time ago that have never been reviewed. This is frustrating, particularly when traveling to an area without a lot of options for craft beer. Pretty useless to have a place listed with no reviews or other information.
     
  5. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Agree to disagree - I would rather have the places listed when I'm doing research on an area I plan to visit than having to use numerous other sites (other beer sites, Yelp!, Google, TripAdvisor) just to determine what beer centric places exist.
     
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  6. guinness77

    guinness77 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    As someone who I guess is guilty of doing this, I’ve only added something like 15-20 beers to the database, I don’t review, period. I definitely respect those that do. But, as someone who used this site for YEARS before I actually signed up (and I’ve been a pretty frequent user) more than 4 years ago, I think having the beer in the database is valuable for people who want to know the style, abv, notes, etc about what’s probably a new beer. I always put the notes in (if there are any) after I add the beer. I have submitted pics before but I couldn’t do that from my old phone, only my laptop, which I’m not on that much. I think out of the ones I added, maybe 2 of them I hadn’t had when I added them.
     
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  7. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    I'm old. I record my notes on beer in a little Moleskine book and I am about 30 or so beers behind in my reviews (usually). I take pictures and I upload the pictures before I do the reviews. When reviewing a beer from a brewery if they have other beers listed that are not on BA I will enter those beers too. I figure it helps the brewery and also help BA people if they are looking for a beer. I might not get around to reviewing the beers for 6 months. Sometimes I drink a beer and I don't review it because I didn't pay enough attention to it while I was drinking it. I never review flights because I do not think the individual beers are big enough for a proper review but I will enter them. Sometimes I drink a beer and I don't review it because I didn't pay enough attention to it while I was drinking it or it has an obvious flaw that is not the brewer's fault. I would be happy to add descriptions but I don't know how to do that.

    I don't mind having unreviewed beers listed on BA. If I am trying to decide to go to a tap room I can get an idea of what they are doing from reading reviewed and unreviewed beers and even the unreviewed beers can give me ideas of what to look for in the store. I also know of breweries that add their beers without reviewing them. I think I would prefer a beer without a review than a beer with a crappy review.
     
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  8. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    In general, I would say this website's places database is lacking. It seems to largely be the function of who BA attracts, which are people who enjoy good beer. Those people are likely to write reviews to rate a beer, but not pay much mind to who or where they buy it. Myself included. I'm trying to focus more on reviewing each and every place I visit to buy or drink beer, much the same as I review each and every new beer (within reason). Then again, I suppose this is all my own theory.


    Bottom line, I know I rely heavily on the BA places database when I'm out traveling, so I'm trying to pay better mind for others and review places to help further substantiate the database for others traveling around my area.
     
  9. wingedeel

    wingedeel Savant (1,190) Nov 17, 2005 Indiana
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    The places database is one I also enjoy using, but I still feel it is of little use without reviews, preferably up to date ones. For example on a trip to Columbus,OH last year I saw someone added (and simply ticked) a place called "The Crafty Pint". As it was close to our hotel, we checked it out despite its lack of reviews. It was a waste of time. I don't personally know a single beer lover who would have enjoyed it. A review would have saved me some time and money. Now please excuse me as i return to my carapace.
     
  10. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Any time there is a place or a beer with a single rating/review, I take it with a grain of salt unless it is someone that I have discovered has similar tastes to me.
     
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  11. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    I'm planning to first add beers I'm having but are missing from BA, naturally including photo (if succeeding :grin:). After that reviewing, at some point when I'm ready. Adding beers makes you learn stuff too.
     
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  12. Bunman3

    Bunman3 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (AB)

    I try hard to include everything possible when adding beers or places, but I do find adding photos to be daunting. I'm reasonably capable when it comes to technology, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way to add photos on BA. I love everything else about it, but until I can add photos in one or two easy steps, I won't bother. Any insights or support would be greatly appreciated!
     
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  13. chrisjws

    chrisjws Grand Pooh-Bah (3,302) Dec 3, 2014 California
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    I think what would help solve some of this issue is to prompt the person x number of days after like the way Yelp does. I add a fair amount and it's usually based on what I know my locals are doing. I don't always get a chance to review right away. That or have a queue like "Beers you've added" where you can pull up the ones you haven't review yet.
     
  14. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    Queues of added beer, breweries, pubs, etc. would be very nice indeed.
     
  15. biboergosum

    biboergosum Grand Pooh-Bah (5,804) Oct 28, 2007 Canada (AB)
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    How can it be 'one or two' steps? First you have to select the 'add photo' option, than 'upload' (select the pic from your device), and then submit. Can't be any slimmer than that.
     
  16. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I think that @Bunman3 is referring to the process to get the photo to the proper dimensions and file size.
     
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  17. biboergosum

    biboergosum Grand Pooh-Bah (5,804) Oct 28, 2007 Canada (AB)
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    That is not a Beer Advocate issue, that is a 'reasonably capable when it comes to technology' issue.
     
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  18. Bunman3

    Bunman3 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (AB)

    @dbrauneis is correct in his interpretation of my comment about adding photos. That said, I took some time to get an app to resize my photos. Pending BA approval, I believe I have successfully added my first photo.

    @biboergosum, thank you for motivating me to figure out my own problem. Your contributions are in a league of their own!
     
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  19. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    You have successfully added your first photo!
     
  20. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I see it. Well done!
     
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