Adding Water to Hit Gravity Target

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  1. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    My question is pretty well summed up by the thread title. Yesterday I boiled off more than expected. I had some pre-boiled water that I always prepare in case I need to rinse something (I also often swirl a little into the yeast package or beaker to get more cells into the beer), and I went ahead and added it all.

    I'm not worried about the beer, but I wondered, is adding water a reasonable way to deal with a high rate of boil-off? Obviously I could collect more wort in the first place, but for a variety of reasons that won't always be a good option for me. Is there any downside to adding some (non-boiled) tap water during the boil to keep my volume where I want it? The only downside I can think of is chlorine, so I'll add a small amount of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) to the water before adding. Is there anything else I should be thinking about?
     
  2. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    Nothing else I think, it's called "liquoring back" and plenty of breweries will do it.
     
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  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I usually keep a couple gallons of water from the HLT for just such an occasion.
     
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  4. 1beerbaron

    1beerbaron Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 Ohio

    Pre-boil dilution is fine. Post-boil is not. (all volume dependent as well. 3% post-boil doesn't really matter)
     
  5. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    Why isn't it okay to dilute post-boil? Plenty of people (mostly extract brewers) do partial boils and top up with ice/water to reach their target gravities/volumes. I recently brewed a half batch and ended up with 2 gallons of high gravity wort instead of 3 at my target gravity. I topped up to 3 gallons with boiled and cooled water and my gravity was about right. No issues with that batch so far.
     
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  6. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Extract brewers do this all the time with no ill effects.
     
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  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Huh? If you boil off more than expected, post-boil "dilution" will bring the gravity right back to where it would have been with the expected boil-off.
     
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  8. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I do this a lot. Probably 1 out of every 3 or 4 batches. Go for it.
     
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  9. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Used to do it when extract brewing with no problems so rock on.
     
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  10. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    Thanks for the advice everyone, it seems as though there's really no issue with adding water. It's funny, when I started brewing I did several extract batches, but I guess I never felt the need to adjust the gravity by adding water (or maybe I did and I've forgotten).
     
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  11. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    If your boil kettle was large enough, you would've had no reason to do a partial boil and top off. It's a good way to get into brewing without having to buy as much expensive specialty equipment. It also makes things a little easier, since you top off to your final volume and don't need to worry about predicting and hitting it. Also, adding ice or cold water reduces or eliminates the need to chill your wort, reducing the required equipment even further.

    I don't make it a habit, since I think it's optimal to hit your volume/OG naturally, but it's a nice tool to have in your arsenal in case you miss.
     
  12. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Every so often the humidity changes or my efficiency goes up or my boil is more rapid or whatever and I end up over my target gravity. I simply run water into the kettle to get my gravity on spot, then move forward. We don't have issues with chlorine or chloramines so I don't boil it. I fill from my drinking water hose. Never had an issue in 6 years of brewing award winning beers.
     
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  13. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I get it when your boil off increases; you're just adding more water to replace what you lost. If your efficiency increases, though, adding water to reach your target gravity would increase your volume beyond the intended batch size, correct? Do you have a larger than necessary fermenter to account for this, or are we talking about a relatively small amount of water, and only a couple of OG points?
     
  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I purposefully over shoot my intended volume. I also ferment in a 1/2 barrel keg. I can go up to 14 gallons if I wanted, but usually only 12 so I can sample along the way and fill 2 kegs after. I am okay with wasting a 1/2 gallon of wort here and beer there as long as my kegs get filled. That being said, if you have 5 gallons of stronger wort and dilute it to 6 gallons of spot on OG, there is nothing that says your a bad brewer if you have 6 gallons of usable wort and only ferment 5.5. There is also no reason you can't run off the extra 1/2 gallon into a second vessel and ferment it with another yeast or add something unique to it.
     
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  15. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    Got it. I'll dilute if I undershoot my target volume, as I'm more concerned about volume than gravity, usually. You make some great points about making sure you hit your OG, even if you end up with extra wort. If you bottle, it's especially easy, since it would only be a matter of a little extra priming sugar and a few more bottles.
     
  16. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Yup. If I get extra wort I can always can it for starters, or pitch it with bugs. If I have extra beer I run it off into a 2L and put a carb cap on it then force carb in 20 minutes, or I run it off flat into another container and use it for cooking.
     
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