Additions to an imperial stout

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  1. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    I brewed my take on a Ten Fidy clone and I'm looking to split the batch into two variants. I was initially thinking "barrel aged" (knob creek soaked oak chips) and either toasted coconut + vanilla or coffee for the second variant. I've added cocoa powder at the end of the boil and 4oz nibs at the end of primary. Loving the flavors.

    I'm finding that I should have reduced my ibus to account for the additional bitterness of the powder/nibs. I think that coconut will get completely lost in the background with the aggressive hopping and coffee may put the bitterness over the top.

    What other kinds of additions do you guys think would work in an aggressively hopped imperial stout?
     
  2. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,879) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I just did an Old Rasputin clone this past weekend, and it's already tasting pretty darn hoppy, especially considering I didn't hit my OG on it, and it's still at around 90 IBUs. I still plan on adding cold-steeped coffee at bottling. I think you'd still be ok adding coffee to that imp stout; don't think it'll add any additional bitterness. If anything I think it'll just accentuate the flavor of the dark malts – chocolate, roasted barley malt, etc..

    Figure this, if you've had any coffee IPAs before and liked those, it could be an interesting twist on the style!
     
  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    licorice, if you're into that kind of thing. I've got a clone recipe I hope to get brewed by the end of the year. I'll be oaking the bejesus out of it and letting it sit for a while.
     
  4. nickfl

    nickfl Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2006 Florida

    I think you are right that the coconut will get lost in that beer. In my experience coconut is fleeting and weak anyway unless you resort to an artificial coconut flavoring.

    Vanilla is always good in a big stout, just use good quality vanilla beans not the dessicated, overpriced garbage from your local supermarket. This is my source: https://www.beanilla.com/

    Coffee will work nicely as well and shouldn't contribute much bitterness if you use it properly. Just add about 1/4# of beans, dry hop style, per 5 gal for 24-36 hours. By far the easiest and best way to add coffee to beer. Don't brew or cold press coffee to dose in, its a common but inferior method. Directly adding beans produces a superior flavor/aroma and minimizes the bitterness, oxidation, and especially astringency that the other methods can produce.
     
  5. bevoduz

    bevoduz Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2007 Illinois

    I've done a lot with Coconut in big imperial stouts, and if done correctly it's absolutely fantastic and in no way takes a back seat.

    It takes a lot of coconut, but it's worth it.
     
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  6. barleyhead

    barleyhead Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2008 New Jersey


    Nickfl, I'm interested in your coffee bean method. Are there concerns for contamination by adding coffee beans?
     
  7. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Nothing wrong with dropping the beans for a quick soak in some starsan.
     
  8. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    Nope, unless you leave the beer open to airborne microbes for a long time. Coffee has some anti-bacterial properties, so dry beaning is not a likely source of infection.
     
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  9. nickfl

    nickfl Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2006 Florida

    Not really, theoretically there could be but I've done this quite a lot and never had issues. Finished beer is fairly resistant to infection and as mentioned above coffee is a relatively unlikely source of contamination. I think the danger is well below the threshold for worrying about in homebrew.
     
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