Adjusting recipes for electrical system

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  1. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    So I just got my electrical system up and running and plan on doing a really good water test run. I'd like to measure as precise as I can as to how much wort I'll be losing due to hoses and herms coil. Is there any specific way to adjust for the loss? Measure OG and try to scale things accordingly in reference to volume differences?
     
  2. pittvkyle7

    pittvkyle7 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2007 Connecticut

    Brewing software with inputs for volume loss should help you with this. But experience on your system is very important. It's a good idea to do that test run
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    BrewCipher and I assume Beersmith have parameters to cover losses. If you're going to measure them, you might as well account for them properly.
     
  4. DrewF

    DrewF Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2010 Pennsylvania

    You can measure the HERMS coil loss and MLT dead space with your water test. Otherwise the only change I would recommend to your first recipe is to scale it up 0.5 - 1 gallon if you want to be sure of a full fermenter. You can use the post-boil measurements from that batch to refine your parameters for the next one.

    Also FWIW, I don't lose a significant amount of wort to the HERMS coils and hoses. It is pretty easy to drain them and recover most of that liquid. Overall I lose about 1/3 gallon pre-boil, mostly to MLT dead space (20 gal Blichmann boilermaker).
     
  5. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    what exactly do you mean here?
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I mean you can put your mesured loss values in the software. Then it will compute your strike/sparge volumes for you, regardless of batch size, grain/hop bill sizes, etc.
     
  7. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I think he means based on the changes in water volumes, what recipe changes would he need to recreate the effects of his previous process? Raise mash temps? Increase specialty malt %? Hop utilization changes? etc
     
  8. bevoduz

    bevoduz Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2007 Illinois

    When I went electric I noticed a much more vigorous boil, thus more boil off.
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    When you use electrical elements, the energy goes into the wort. With direct fired systems, only a fraction gets to the wort, the rest of the heat goes to the surrounding area. One can achieve a vigor boil with direct fired system, you just might need more BTUs.
     
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