Advice for a first timer

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  1. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    I drive the relentless buying and drinking of beer in our house but my wife, to my surprise, has been the one pushing, hard, to get into homebrewing for quite a while now. I know there are other places to get answers on this subject, but I’d appreciate any guidance this community would like to offer. I want to get her (and myself) started in the new year with a Christmas gift of homebrewing gear but I’m not sure exactly what I should get. I know some of you (personally) and I know some of you are very accomplished homebrewers, so any advice you’d like to give me would be invaluable. Whether it’s a link, a list of equipment must haves, books, opinions on whether we should start with kits, extracts, pellets, whatever, please chime in.

    We live in the ground floor apartment of a house in North Jersey and have a large garage in which fermenting beer can be stored. Of course we are into typically geeky styles but I think she (and I) would be open to brewing pretty much any style to get our feet wet. She’s a skillful baker and a fastidious person in general so I think she’ll make a solid brewer. I’m a bit of a chaotic, less than tidy type, so I’ll probably wind up as her procurer and assistant and try not to contaminate the batches.
     
  2. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

  3. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    How To Brew by John Palmer. Go to the website by the same name for a free edition.

    I'd start with extract, get a starter kit from your local homebrew shop or online. If you think you're really going to like brewing, I'd go big with a nice large stainless steel pot from the beginning. If not, start with something small like a 5g pot for stovetop.

    Be sanitary.
    Even though your airlock isn't bubbling, that doesnt mean fermentation isn't going on.
    Take gravity readings.
    At the end of the day you'll make beer.
    RDWHAHB
     
  4. thetachibro

    thetachibro Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2005 New Jersey

    check out some homebrew websites such as northernbrewer.com and midwestsupplies.com . Pick up one of their homebrew starter kits and it will pretty much have everything you would need to get started including a recipe kit. You will learn from experience, even after your first brew, about any other equipment that would make your process easier and more enjoyable. After my first batch i realized that i need some clamps and racking equipment that would make the bottling process easier for me. After my second batch i found out that some irish moss would help out my beer's... and so on and so on....
     
  5. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    You will need several things, and there's some more that you might want to consider, especially if you're looking to do it right the first time.

    needs:
    2x brewing containers, in order of my personal preference (8 gal bucket, 6.5 gallon buckets, carboys)*
    wine thief
    auto-siphon
    food grade tubing, at least 4' (likely comes with the auto-siphon if you buy a kit)
    gravity tester (these are fragile and very cheep, consider buying two)
    thermometer
    brew pot at least 5 gallons (preferably more)
    airlock
    Star-san
    proper heating (this may require you get a turkey-fryer type setup)
    stainless stirring spoon
    bottling wand
    bottle capper
    bottle caps
    bottles (you can re-use good commercial bottles, no twist offs, no corked-and-caged)

    you should also get
    a book on brewing, Palmer's "how to brew," the joy of homebrewing, the one suggested above by ventura would all be fine.

    you're gonna wish you had bought it if you didn't already...
    wort chiller
    nylon paint bags for hops / grain steeping (can be found at home depot)

    for the near future after you get started

    flask for making starters and/or rehydrating yeast
    stir plate

    You must also have a temperature control plan. Most Ales brew best below 70F. Most ales quite quickly start to taste like dog-doo if they're fermented at 75F and above. If you live in a warm climate, this could be an issue. There are ways to deal with keeping beer cool (or warm) ... ASK before you let your first batch sit at 78F for three weeks and wind up with undrinkable beer. Large temperature fluctuations are a no-go too.

    I highly suggest you and your wife read up a little, but don't over-think your first batch. Consider stealing the procedures from people who publish such things (I publish all my procedures on my blog, here is one that came out really good). I will clarify anything that's not clear. Develop your own procedures for your recipes and equipment, and HAVE A CHECKLIST and FOLLOW IT!

    There are a lot of beginning kits available, and most of them are just fine. However, many of them don't come with an auto-siphon, wine thief, or bottling wand. These are very cheep pieces of plastic that make your life immensely easier, GET THEM!

    Consider a kit beer for your first batch. They will likely come with instructions and be easy. Start with extract batches, perhaps with steeping grains. Learn the procedures and get confident. Also RDWHAHB!

    I got my starter kit at a LHBS and they let me mix/match a few things according to my preference. Online sellers probably won't do that, but you can still easily find a good deal.

    *I love my eight gallon fermentation bucket, but a 6.5 gallon will do. You NEED at least one bucket. If you want a carboy, a 6.5 gallon carboy is preferable but not required (but will be required if you intend to use it as a fermentation vessel for 5 gallons). Honestly if you can't find the eight gallon buckets, I'd just start with two 6.5 gallon buckets, they work great and are very easy to clean. Better bottles are also good (you still need at least one bucket tho)
     
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  6. Mattreinitz

    Mattreinitz Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2012 New York

    I just got my first beer in the fermenter late last night and I gotta say its a lot of fun. I got my kit from here http://www.homebrewing.org/Beginning-Homebrew-Kit-Upgrade-2-_p_1692.html and its pretty much all the gear you need, 2 buckets, a pot, auto-siphon, hydrometer, etc. The only thing its missing is some kind of false bottom for lautering, but you don't need that for an extract batch. Oh and by the way the customer service at this place is freaking amazing. The auto siphon was broken when I took it out of the box (not a big deal stuff like this happens). I took pictures and I was prepared to do some arguing and complaining when I called them but they picked up the phone immediately, asked me for my order number, and sent me a new one for free that day. Got the ups email with the tracking number about an hour later.
     
  7. macandrewsRIP

    macandrewsRIP Crusader (411) Oct 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    before you go plopping down mucho dinaros of cash, find a local homebrew store, talk to the folks there and see if you can watch/assist with a batch of extract homebrew. Some stores have a 'Bring a Newbie' and get 10% off your first purchase, etc. You should be aware of what the processes are, how to keep it clean & santized, etc, how to bottle/keg, etc. And yes bring your wife, heck she may want to start brewing herself never mind you, not that there's anything wrong with that. (Honey can you make me a batch of beer, thanks hon'!) Be careful you can get easily hooked into (I believe) one of the greatest and most satisfying hobbies ever. Period.
     
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    "local homebrew store club"
    Fixed that for you. Not that there's anything wrong with a homebrew store, if it has knowledgeable employees. Many of them don't. But just about any club will have someone who knows what they are doing.
     
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  9. buddha5050

    buddha5050 Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2012 Michigan

    I live about 15 min from their store, the people there a great and will give you great advice even if you don't buy anything from them, they are in it for the good of the craft.
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    That was what I was going to say. A good club is where I got enough knowledge and feedback to take my beers to the next level.

    The folks at Adventures in Homebrewing (homebrewing.org) are good people. The owners are excellent homebrewers. A few of the staff are in our club, and know their stuff. One of the staff is one of the best brewers I know, with a boatload of BoS awards and several national medals. When people complain about the poor advice from the LHBS, I am thankful for AiH.
     
  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Start simple. Don't try to walk before you can run, learn to handle the basic brewing processes.Don't be paranoid about sanitation, I brewed without problems for years and years just using good everyday cleanliness and hygiene.Soap, water and elbow grease.Not to say don't use sanitisers, just don'r worry too much about infections.
     
  12. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    Don't try to add any crazy ingredients to your first attempts at brewing. Out of my first 11 batches the only one I haven't liked was along these lines. It was also the most expensive beer I've made because of the ingredients added.
     
  13. Mattreinitz

    Mattreinitz Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2012 New York

    Another thing I'm doing is I'm keeping a record of everything I do. I went out and got a composition notebook and I'm keeping notes on every step; what grains I used, what temp I mashed at, which hops, boil time, OG, FG, SRM, ABV, which yeast, and I record the temperature of the fermenter twice a day. That way a month from now when I finally get to take a sip if it doesn't taste right I have some hope of figuring out what went wrong.
     
  14. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Like Momma used to say: 1st things first.
    - How much beer do you drink?
    - How much of that daily-weekly-monthly-yearly volume do you want to brew yourself?

    Before dropping a big chunk of change on equipment...are you sure you have the time and patience to pull it off? If not...you just may end up with a boat-load of gear and a CraigsList ad trying to dump it for pennies on the dollar.
    Check your local listings for details.

    Consider starting small and ease into the sport.
     
  15. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    This will go a long way towards quickly finding success in homebrewing. I blog everything, you may keep a notebook, either way, it's the details that matter!
     
  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I'm sure you didn't mean that... "Don't try to walk before you can run"
     
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  17. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    I words mix sometimes the up order the of.
     
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  18. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    Thanks for the great advice and guidance so far. I appreciate all the responses, especially the people who actually read the OP :wink:.

    How about some thoughts on style for a first batch? Something that's not too challenging, but also something that we're going to want to drink? Not super crazy about the Irish reds and amber styles that seem to be par for the course in terms of beginner brewing kits.
     
  19. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

  20. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    What styles do you like to drink? If you like APAs, that's a good first beer. It's relatively simple, and there's not a lot of ingredients for flaws to hide behind, so if you make mistakes, you'll probably learn from them.

    Edit: I'd add that for a first beer, I'd avoid anything with very high gravity (basically high ABV), and anything that requires a secondary. (Most beers do not require a secondary, in spite of what the outdated instruction sheets that come with the kits say.)
     
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