Advice for a Newbie

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by slevy221, Feb 27, 2014.

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  1. slevy221

    slevy221 Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2014 New Jersey

    Hey Everyone! First post!

    I've been reading up on aging beer and am just starting. I currently have three brews in a dark bottom shelf of my apartment shaded from too much light.

    Can anyone recommend how long the below beers should be aged?
    • Brew Dog - Toklo
    • Speakeasy - Scarface
    • Epic Brewing - Big Bad Baptist (Release #22)
    Also, how could I find for future references what the best timing would be to let the beer age?

    Thank you!!!!
     
  2. Ol_Johnny_Skippelwicky

    Ol_Johnny_Skippelwicky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2013 Minnesota

    Most will say you shouldn't let the Baptist go too long because the coffee will fade.
     
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  3. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Have you had any of them before?
     
  4. C20Percent

    C20Percent Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2011 Virginia

    I just had a Big Bad Baptist that was six months old. It was wonderful.
     
  5. fishmich

    fishmich Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2013 Michigan

    the coffee will fade on the BBB but that doesnt mean it will be a bad beer. plus since there is so much coffee in BBB i think it would take a long time to fade. with BBB id say drink it fresh and then try to get more to age.
     
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  6. slevy221

    slevy221 Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2014 New Jersey

    Yeah I loved the BBB but wanted to let one sit and age. It's my first one to age. So you think 6 months?
     
  7. fishmich

    fishmich Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2013 Michigan

    honestly im not sure if you would see much difference in BBB after 6 months but that depends and how its cellared. BBB is pretty coffee heavy, i had some batch 7 recently and it was just like i remember fresh but it was kept refrigerated most of the time. im really interested to try one after 2+ years.
     
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  8. JonnyBeers

    JonnyBeers Savant (1,211) Oct 24, 2012 Canada (BC)

    Tokyo* I'm not sure, but I really liked it somewhat fresh. Aging one now I think is from 2012. It'll go a long way I'm sure. Much like Meph from Avery
     
  9. GoinOnTilt

    GoinOnTilt Initiate (0) Mar 11, 2014 Ohio

    I hope I'm not hijacking your thread here, but I'm a newbie, too, and I couldn't find where to place this post.

    If I'm looking to start a collection, what do I need to know? Are the requirements just "dark, dry place"? I'm currently huge into IPAs. Are there specific requirements to store them? How long can they be stored?

    I was just about to pull the trigger on a dedicated beverage fridge, but the idea of storing them over time sounds intriguing, too. Any and all advice is appreciated.
     
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  10. th0m

    th0m Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2014 Kansas

    Also new on the scene, so if I give some wrong advice, I hope someone corrects my mistakes.

    Anyway, from what I've researched, the place you're storing beer should be dark, and cool, with very little temperature fluctuation. I'm not entirely sure why the fluctuation is so important, but the "small fluctuations in temperature" requirement for a cellar has been posted everywhere I've looked in my research. I've read that a cheap way to age beers is to do it in a closet in the center of your home, where temperature probably fluctuates the least. I don't think the space has to be damp, since most beers are capped, and those exceptions that are corked are also caged, and should probably be aged like a wine bottle, on its side.

    You should never store IPAs. The hop flavor, which is what is the most forward flavor in an IPA, drops off very fast, so IPAs should be consumed as fast as possible. That is why everyone searches for the freshest bottle dates for IPAs, but not really so much for other beers.

    Keeping beers in the fridge will slow down the aging process, but not halt it entirely. So, if you're a big fan of IPAs, a dedicated beverage fridge might be a good idea, so that you can keep your IPAs cold, and delay the aging of them until you get around to drinking them.
     
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  11. slevy221

    slevy221 Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2014 New Jersey

    Just to add to that (again still a newbie myself) but based on my research I'm finding that big beers with high alcohol content such as stouts/imperial stouts are the best to age.

    Also, when you store the beer, make sure they remain standing. I read somewhere that the rubber under the bottle cap for beer bottles could disintegrate over time if the liquid sits on it. Basically, unlike wine, beer is meant to be stores standing up as opposed to laying flat.

    I'm happy to learn more so thanks for adding to the post chain!!!
     
  12. cultclassic89

    cultclassic89 Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2013 Texas

    I'll post this here as well, since there's another thread similar to this.

    As far as storing goes yes, you want a dark, dry place without much temperature fluctuation. If you can keep it between 45 - 60 degrees, that would be ideal. I currently have a wine cooler that's tinted and stays at 55 degrees.
    As slevy221 said, keep them stored upright.

    You can read more about storage on this page:
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/101/store/
     
  13. JasonLovesBeer

    JasonLovesBeer Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2013 Canada (BC)

    Other things to note:

    - Bottle conditioned beers are well suited to aging, as they will develop.
    - Pasteurized beers do not offer much of any reason to age.

    There is no ABV rule or style rule. It's more about style but also depends largely beer-to-beer. For example, Cantillons with 5% ABV will develop wonderfully for 20 years.

    Read this forum for a while, as there are TONS of threads about how long to age what. This forum tends to repeat itself every week. That's part of it. But more important than that, if you're thinking of aging a beer, drink it and pick out what you like or don't like. You will lose some flavours over time while others will become more prominent. You'll learn which ones are which (though it is always a little bit of a guessing game), or you can easily find out through reading this forum
     
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