Advice for undercarbed bottles

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  1. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    About 2 months ago, I bottled my first big beer, a 13.2% ABV Imperial Stout. The good news is that the beer tastes great, but the bad news is that is it way undercarbed, probably 1.0-1.5 vols CO2. With ~4.5 gallons of great stuff, I'm looking for a way to fix this. Here are details:

    It fermented with US-05 for 4 weeks in primary, FG 1.024. The beer then spent 3 weeks in a new 5gal whiskey barrel, and I then racked it to a bottling bucket. Using an online calculator aiming for 2.2 vols CO2, I added sucrose that had been boiled in water to the bottling bucket prior to racking and gently stirred to mix the sugar. I also added 1/4-1/2 pack of dry champagne yeast to the bottling bucket, but I forgot to rehydrate and just sprinkled them in (I suspect this is my problem). Bottling went well.

    I have kegging equipment, so one thought is to somehow transfer from the bottles to a keg and carb. I'm worried about oxidation along the way and the PITA of transferring back to bottles. I also thought about add a tiny amount of rehydrated champagne yeast to each bottle, assuming that there is residual sugar for more carbing. The other option is to just leave it alone and chalk it up to experience. Any suggestions? TIA.
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    This...although a >13% beer might take to carb drops and recapping better than most.
     
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  3. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    I would leave it, or if it really bothers you, maybe pour it into a plastic bottle with a carbonator cap, shake it for a few seconds at 30 psi, and serve right away.
     
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  4. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    I suggest next time use some cask ale yeast. I have used it on a 18 abv IRS with great results.
     
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  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Sometimes high gravity beers can take a very long time to carbonate. I recommend you wait another couple of months and report back.

    Cheers!
     
  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Be proactive. Go buy lallemand cbc cask and bottle conditioning yeast, pop your bottles and using sterilized tweezers drop a grain or two of the yeast into each bottle. Recap said bottles and wait a couple of weeks. Boom, carbbed beer. I have done this. It does work. Is it risky? Sure, but fortune favors the bold.
     
  7. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    Thanks all. I may experiment and leave some bottles as is and possibly use a carb cap for some, and add some cask ale yeast to some as well. I'll report updates.
     
  8. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I'd wait it out – a 13.2% abv RIS isn't gonna be a good summer beer anyways!

    I bet you they're right where you want them come fall. I bottled a RIS 2 years ago and was getting worried that they would never carb. Another half year down the road and they were too carbonated. I wouldn't tamper with them anymore if I were you. Not worth risking ruining that black gold that you put so much effort into.
     
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  9. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Definitely wait it out. If there are no signs of improvement by winter, try re-yeasting as recommended above.
     
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  10. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    My only question is why just 2.2 vols. But. I have my opinions, and reasons.
    Looks like you did everything right. My vote is for your ignoring it a little longer.
    Or, if you must tinker with it. Don't do the whole batch. As others suspect. I'm pretty positive you'll be hitting the preferred vols soon enough. Big beers take a very long time to carb up. . It's worth it though.
     
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  11. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    The good news is that I'm in no hurry to drink these, so I'll let it ride for a while.
     
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  12. LakesideBrewing

    LakesideBrewing Zealot (604) Dec 1, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Like others are saying: leave it!
    I've had a 10% abv stout take over 6 months to fully carb before.
     
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  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    You guys must not like beer. If you brew these beers right they don't NEED to sit.
     
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  14. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    IMHO the beer tastes outstanding except for the carbonation. Exactly why I'm inpatient, but I'll leave it for now.
     
  15. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    Follow up. I just chilled and opened another bottle, exactly 3 months after bottling (with champagne yeast) and it's carbed up to my liking! Lesson learned - just be patient with bottle conditioning big beers. Here is a pic several minutes after pouring. Thanks for all the sage advice.
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