Advice on an overdue trade going sideways

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by SweetChicken, Feb 20, 2015.

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  1. CSO

    CSO Savant (1,134) Jan 31, 2014 Illinois
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    Just to clarify, the list in your first post was the beer you were supposed to receive? Or that was all the beer involved on both sides of the trade? And you're looking for specific dollar values for those beers?
     
  2. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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    If you don't out him, please send me the user's name. Thanks in advance.
     
  3. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Please tag this guy and let's get all the facts on the table. Need to get this guy on here and get a resolution for you.
     
  4. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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    This 100%
     
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  5. SweetChicken

    SweetChicken Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    The list is the replacement beer list (not really what I wanted) and the original beer I sent. There are multiples in this trade. Were talking almost $200 worth of beer.
     
  6. bigdaddyjerry

    bigdaddyjerry Initiate (0) May 6, 2013 Maryland

    yea that had me confused, because it doesn't say who's was who's
     
  7. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Can you repost that and make it clear which is which. Include what original trade was and also what proposed replacement is.
     
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  8. SweetChicken

    SweetChicken Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    If it isn't resolved soon, I will absolutely out him. Like me, he also has 100% feedback so I'm trying to give him the widest of possible margins before doing it. As I said in the OP, just checking value before sending him and the world a nasty gram.
     
  9. SweetChicken

    SweetChicken Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Purposefully not trying to taint value opinions by saying my side of the trade vs his. Strangely no one has actually commented on the values....! Looking for ball park amounts. $25ish is a fantastic start!
     
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  10. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    This is very simple, either you tell him acceptable bottles or he replaces the exact original bottles. I've been on his side, it sucked, but I bit the bullet (and actually didn't have insurance)
     
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  11. CSO

    CSO Savant (1,134) Jan 31, 2014 Illinois
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    If you're just looking for cost, I think the Almanacs were $12 each, the FfaC were $15-$18 each, Golden Blend was $25, HF shelf was $10, HF Sue was $25, and I believe the Cascade was around $25.
     
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  12. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Op - the values don't matter. He owes you either the original bottles or whatever list of things you come up with which can be based on unicorns or coin flips or whatever measure you use
     
  13. SweetChicken

    SweetChicken Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    @CSO. Perfect!!!!! Hugely helps (my position too :slight_smile:)
     
  14. PG2G

    PG2G Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2011 California

    Don't know if it helps at all, but that Cascade would be $25 from the brewery (and maybe elsewhere in Oregon). Here in California that bottle would be $35-40, depending on whether the retailer wants to take a hit on their profits or not because Cascade's wholesale pricing is terrible
     
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  15. buttesnake

    buttesnake Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2013 Colorado

    In Colorado, the Cascade is $30-32, the 3F is ~$24, and Almanac are $10-12.
     
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  16. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    You wouldn't be tainting any value opinions, this would just give us a better idea of what exactly is going on! Seriously, its hard to evaluate the situation without this info and I think @jrnyc would agree with me
     
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  17. greg4579

    greg4579 Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

    The HF Florence and Clara would be in the $10-12 range I believe.
     
  18. greg4579

    greg4579 Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2010 Pennsylvania

    From the Hill Farmstead site:
    • Susan: American IPA 6.2% abv ($8/$16)
     
  19. SweetChicken

    SweetChicken Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2011 Massachusetts
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    After a few "discussions" with this BA last night, I think at least the terms are worked out. I really appreciate the feedback from you guys on trade value. It really helped in giving me some perspective!! To close this out, I thought I'd share the deal and initial "values" he proposed.

    I sent him 8 3F Golden Blends at my cost of $22.50 each.

    His initial values of what he proposed to have me pick from to send in return

    Valley of hearts delight - $25
    Farmer's Reserve 3 - 30
    Brandy peche - 20
    fram 11 - 50
    fram 13 - 35
    fram 14 - 20
    Florence - 35
    clara - 35
    Sue - 45
    Sang Royal - 40
     
  20. Desp59

    Desp59 Savant (1,052) Jun 23, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Am I the only one confused here? Are you allowed to pick 200 points to make up for your $200? If so these values are way off. I get a little increase for older bottles (maybe although I wouldnt) but $35 for florence and Clara? Really? Sounds to me like you aren't getting taken care of the way you should. And since it has been going on for two months you should get additional bottles as well.
     
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