Ageing Belgian dubbels

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by BelgianBeerFan, Apr 13, 2014.

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  1. BelgianBeerFan

    BelgianBeerFan Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2014 England

    I'm driving over to Belgium soon to stock up on various beers and was wondering if anybody has any experience with aging dubbels and by ageing I mean years.

    I've just opened a sint Bernadus abt 12 that I've had cellared for about 8 years and I can tell you it was very very good. Any body know if the prior 8 or pater do well when left for long periods?

    Any recommendations on other Belgian ales that age well apart from quads and lambics would be appreciated as I intend to add to my collection of already ageing beers?

    Cheers
     
  2. braugon

    braugon Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2013 Connecticut

    I've had 2010 Westmalle Dubbel that wasn't very good.
     
  3. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    My experience is that they become less sweet. For some beers this is a good thing and others it just flattens them out too much. I would age the ones where you like the yeast characteristics but think they are muted behind the sweetness. Im personally aging CCB/Alesmith Dubbel Dare for this reason. I've never found any reason to age Chimay Red. A lot of people say Goose island Pere Jacques improves with age but I've never had the patience to let any of them sit.

    If you're stocking up, then you have the opportunity to crack open bottles every 6 months or so and see when you like them best.
     
  4. BelgianBeerFan

    BelgianBeerFan Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2014 England

    That's interesting as that was on my list. I'll have to rethink that one then.
     
  5. BelgianBeerFan

    BelgianBeerFan Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2014 England

    That's the exact reason I prefer quads with age and probably why I enjoyed the abt 12 so much. I'm not too keen on beers that are too sweet.
     
  6. polloenfuego

    polloenfuego Pooh-Bah (2,346) Jan 26, 2013 Canada (NB)
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    Oddly, I had the opposite finding. I had a 2010 and a 2011 and both were exceptional. I preferred the 2011, but not by much.

    I've never had one older than 4 years, but that is because of temptation.
     
  7. ManforallSaisons

    ManforallSaisons Pooh-Bah (1,554) Mar 20, 2008 Belgium
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    I've had fabulous St. Bernardus, Rochefort and Westvleteren 8s with a couple years on them, so it's worth a shot. But I would expect a noticeable difference as the years accumulated. I've had a Chimay red at four years, and it had the flavor profile of an empty glass. Pointless, aside from a fabulous smell of all the goodness dissipating. That said, if you go for a sweeter, more robust double with more material packed into it, that may give you some years. Besides the above, I'm thinking maybe a Witkap Pater dubbel or Kapittel Dubbel, or its Prior would be better. In fact, the quads and their ilk are so much more likely to work, at minimal extra investment, why bother with the doubles?

    Besides the quads/strong dark ales, and the gueuzes, the other thing I'd mention are the Christmas seasonals. They're usually great to grab after new year and bank them for much, much later. I still see some on the shelves in some places, if you're coming soon. Grab some Orval, too, but not for more than 3-4 years, I'd say. Even for the biggees, like the St. B. 12 you mentioned, 8 years is probably the outside, and surely on a downward slope.
     
  8. allouez86

    allouez86 Pundit (999) Jan 24, 2009 Wisconsin

    Most people don't but I've had the red Chimay with 2 years and it was great. That's about my only experience with aged doubles though.
     
  9. wjrainer

    wjrainer Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2014 North Carolina

    I bought a case of Boulevard Nommo Dubbel on clearance and have been drinking them slowly over the last couple years. That is the only experience in the area, but they definitely improved with age for about a year and a half but have started to fall off.
     
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