Aging and cellaring beers up side down ? is that bad?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Charliechu, Aug 6, 2013.

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  1. Charliechu

    Charliechu Pundit (794) Jul 1, 2013 California
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    Is it bad to store bottles upside down ? Given that it is store in a cool and dark place.
     
  2. PaulQuinn

    PaulQuinn Initiate (0) May 27, 2011 Canada (BC)

    That's probably not a good idea. You'd be forcing the cap/cork more than usual. So if it is a beer known for leaking, or even exploding, when stored in a normal fashion you'd have more to worry about.
     
  3. BiereBlanche

    BiereBlanche Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2007 Colorado

    Given that I can pull at a bottle cap all day without it moving, I doubt ~12-22 oz of liquid is going to be too much force.
    The larger surface area of the bottom vs. neck of a bottle could potentially speed up oxidation, but I don't think I'd worry much about that either, esp if bottle conditioned. Maybe you're more likely to break a neck if bottles jostle around in a case?
     
  4. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Just out of curiosity, why would you want to store them upside down?
     
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  5. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    It's probably fine but why on earth do you want to do it?
     
  6. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    I wouldn't, caps aren't meant to come into contact with liquid, and laying capped beers on their side or upside down does nothing for the beer. Most modern corks for beers are cheap and agglomeration-type, and don't meet much liquid contact if any to keep a seal- older style whole cork corks like those in cantillon are the types to lay on their sides, but I don't know of many brewers outside of Cantillon that use them. That's my $.02 on the matter.
     
  7. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    Girardin ships their gueuze upside down. Not sure what importance that is, but it is an example of a well-respected brewery storing their corked beer upside-down.
     
  8. ZamaMan

    ZamaMan Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 California

    I don't get why anyone would store their beer upside down. It's not even practical so why do it.
     
  9. oldsyd

    oldsyd Zealot (514) Oct 27, 2006 Iowa
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    Ok, so apparently there are people that do this. I recently spoke with someone who held on to the GI sisters and has been cellaring them upside down for the past few months. He said it was to redistribute the yeast and possibly kickstart some more secondary fermentation. He was then going to go a couple months with them right side up. His store mostly deals with wine, so is this just something he is carrying over from wine bottle celllaring?
     
  10. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    big "lol no" out to that one.

    re: OP's question, it's probably bad due to contact with cork / cap, but it also probably doesn't much matter.

    it's definitely not going to magically put more fermentables in the beer and give rise to a second fermentation though.
     
  11. oldsyd

    oldsyd Zealot (514) Oct 27, 2006 Iowa
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    So yeast won't go dormant in a bottle and then become reactivated if it is exposed to new areas of the bottle or if it was dislodged from underneath a caked on layer of sediment?
     
  12. Ol_Johnny_Skippelwicky

    Ol_Johnny_Skippelwicky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2013 Minnesota

    Fermentables aren't being introduced but there are still some in the beer, otherwise bottle conditioning wouldn't work. Resuspending the yeast could perk up some dormant cells if the conditions are right.

    But storing them upside down for that reason doesn't make sense because it will still settle out no matter what the position. It's the act of turning them back over that would do anything for the yeast.
     
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  13. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    I've never seen this. All of our cases have them laying on their side (Hanssens does this too).
     
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