Aging Kegs

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by tbaker397, Jan 18, 2014.

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  1. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    Hello all,
    Have a question for those who know more than I. I work at a fairly successful restaurant with a focus on craft beer. I have recently been given an opportunity that I would like to ask you all if it'd be worth undertaking. I have available to me a Keg of Narwhal from end of 2013. I have been considering putting in a dark place and forgetting about it until next year, so I would be able to do a side by side of 2013/14. The only way I could store it and guarantee temp control is in the beer cooler, which obviously is lower than cellar temp. Does anyone here have any experience with this? Is it worth it? I also have a 2013/14 Bigfoot lined up ready to go as well.
     
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  2. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    absolutely. Many bars do this. In fact, a local bar did a vertical of DRAFT Bigfoot from 1993-present for his 20th Anny. Talk about epic.. no one could believe he had cellared 20 kegs of vintage BF and NOT tapped any of them for 20 years!!
     
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  3. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    By chance do you know if he stored them in his cooler or did he actually cellar them around 50 degrees?
     
  4. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Oh hell yes it's worth it! Go for it!
     
  5. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    Honestly, I always figured they were stored in the cooler at his largest bar (I mean, it does have a HUGE walkin, guess you need one for 50+ lines). But don't know for sure. If you can store then in the cooler though, it's obviously a much better environment for storing kegs long term, for aging.
     
  6. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    You don't want to ever "cellar" kegs at 50 degrees. bottles- different story. kegs demand the cold storage.
     
  7. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    Thanks for the reply (and to todd for moving this to the proper forum!). One other local place does this as well and has received good feedback on it so I am def. gonna give this a shot.

    Has anyone actually been able to do a side by side of Narwhal or Bigfoot on draft? What are the more pronounced differences between 2 years that you've been able to pick out?
     
  8. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    Bigfoot, the hops begin to fade. It takes a long time before they're faded a lot but it's noticeable at two years. It's such a hop bomb fresh though I prefer it at five years minimum.

    Narwhal is similar but since it's not too aggressive fresh, it's just a little more dry with time.
     
  9. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    Storing in the cooler is great. Good plan!
     
  10. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    All of the kegs I've aged at work have been in the cooler, but I am curious as to why you say that they can't be cellared at a higher temp.
     
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  11. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    CO2 will slowly come out of solution and change the mouthfeel of the beer (especially over a longer period of time).
     
  12. Phillyz

    Phillyz Initiate (0) May 20, 2010 Pennsylvania

    A local bar had a keg of 05 Cantillon Kriek and threw it in their cooler for 8 years. Opened it up recently, and it was delicious.
     
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  13. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    As in leak out of the coupling seal? Or create its own head space in the keg? I guess it makes sense I just never thought about that happening.
     
  14. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    Depends on the beer, but the latter seems to happen most often. Then when you go to refrigerate, you lose quite a bit of CO2 in solution and mouthfeel changes, affecting the flavor profile of said beer, as it was intended by the brewer.
    Basically, the best way to age kegs is closest to walk-in box temps as possible. I've seen not so high abv (as low as 7.5%-8% beers) hold up for an extraordinarily long time if refrigerated the duration... obviously not IPA's... but even brown ales, saisons (and any belgian for that matter), and double stouts (I have a problem calling 8% an imperial stout). IPA's need to be consumed freshest of course, and I would avoid aging anything with a large wheat bill.
     
  15. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    Love the info I am getting. My year old big foot is getting ready to be tapped and I have recently put the keg of narwhal aside...you know...for a rainy day. Maybe ill get this yeara bigfoot and do a 'narfoot' or a 'bigwhal' mix next year :slight_smile:
     
  16. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Side question: I have a sixtel of Bourbon County Stout that was tapped momentarily at the bar (probably about 5 or 6 10oz servings out of the keg). Would it still be ok to put away for a year or two (or more) down the road?
     
  17. RBCORCORAN

    RBCORCORAN Initiate (0) May 18, 2009 Massachusetts

    Just enjoyed some 2001 Big foot (keg)at the EBF and it was great. No hops taste ,sweet and malty like and English barley wine.
     
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