Aging Lambic

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by JackRWatkins, Aug 19, 2015.

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  1. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    I know that lambic can be aged for a long time, but does anybody know a good absolute maximum for how long you can actually age one before it straight up spoils or at the very least wont develop any more?
     
  2. interman

    interman Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2010 Norway

    Asked Jean-Pierre Van Roy this question when I went there last year. He said 40-50+ years should be doable given proper storage
     
  3. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    I don't think there is an answer. To me it is mostly a question of how well the seal on the bottle holds. For 3F, since they cork and cage, I have high confidence in their seal both upright and laid down.

    Cantillon on the other hand, I hav had some experience with corks drying out. If I am short term aging them, I stand them up, but for any length of time I try to lay them down and make sure they aren't in a dry environment. What drives me nuts though is when moisture gets under the crown and makes a rusty soup on top of the cork.
     
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  4. MOVERTON1284

    MOVERTON1284 Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2014 Alabama

    I would say a long time. When Brew Dogs went to Cantillon they drank a lambic from the early 60's, so it was over 50 years old.
     
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  5. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia

    Honestly, it's probably like bourbon with an infinite life. However, they all have a best by date of 10 years after bottling listed on their label. And after that, honestly, I think they lose a lot of their funk and bite they have when fresh. I recently had a series of bottles that were 13-17 years old and honestly, mid age 5-10 years is best.
     
  6. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    No one knows for certainty because very few people have tried a 100+ yr old bottle or lived long enough to try something they sat on for that long. Factoring in storage, temp, and all the other variables, there is no definitive answer. And there never will be.

    It's like asking how long your engine is going to run or how big a tree is going to grow.
     
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  7. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    that's good to hear
     
  8. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,305) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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    De Cam labels their beer with "best buy" dates that are either 25 or 30 years from bottle date (can't remember which). Either way, it's a significant period of time.
     
  9. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Grand Pooh-Bah (4,064) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    Lambic is already "technically" spoiled beer. When you sour any food or beverage it has become very very stable. It doesnt become more spoiled. It just changes aroma / flavor profile and you will probably loose carbonation the longer that you hold onto a bottle of lambic. You can probably get some oxidation if you hold onto a bottle of lambic for too long, but I dont know how long that maybe.
     
  10. Sneex

    Sneex Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2014 Rhode Island

    The last Cantillon bottle I had showed a 25 year "best by" date, but your point is well taken. It's probably best to listen to the brewer if they take the time to label the bottle.
     
  11. AustinPollack

    AustinPollack Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2014 New York

    The best by date on Lambics is due to European law saying there must be an expiration date. As long as there are active yeasts and bacteria in the bottle, it will continue to develop.
     
  12. allforbetterbeer

    allforbetterbeer Savant (1,236) Sep 26, 2009 Colorado

    As mentioned by others, there is no way a lambic can "spoil". No beer can spoil really, but some which incorporate aggressive wild yeasts or bacteria can become totally overwhelmed by the flavors of those specific organisms. Orval is an example, as the brettanomyces yeast continues to be active in the bottle and eventually produces flavors that eclipse almost everything else in the beer. It doesn't "spoil", but it does change in a way that most people find less than ideal.
     
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