Aging Saisons?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by ceeg, Jan 31, 2017.

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  1. ceeg

    ceeg Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 New York

    I'm not talking about geriatric bottles here but I'm curious if any of you are actively doing this. Since some of these beers can be kinda low in the ABV department, I wonder how long I could/should keep them in the cellar? I'm sure I've consumed older Saisons before but have no idea of their age. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. considerbeer

    considerbeer Devotee (303) Dec 15, 2016 California

    If they are part of this new American mixed culture saison thing going on, I think it's a worthy experiment to age some of them, no matter the ABV. I've had some of the higher alcohol imported saisons that can hold up just fine, but if it's somewhere in that Dupont-esque 6.5% ABV range, drink now or give it to me!
     
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  3. lic217

    lic217 Pooh-Bah (2,090) Aug 10, 2010 Connecticut
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    Saisons are one of the most diverse groups of beer, because of this, its a hard question to answer. Factors I would think about before aging: do hops play a role in the beer, is it a mixed fermentation, the ABV, etc. To me, Hills Farmstead's style of Saisons tend to be agable, but something like Sorachi ace or Workers Comp are not.
     
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    lic217 Pooh-Bah (2,090) Aug 10, 2010 Connecticut
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    I have had a Saison Dupont (dry hopped Version in a 750 ml bottle) with a couple of years on it and it was mind blowing...
     
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  5. considerbeer

    considerbeer Devotee (303) Dec 15, 2016 California

    Better than fresh? I've had the dry hopped new and old, and it is still good, but I'm left wondering what the point of dry hopping is if we're hanging onto these for years.
     
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  6. ceeg

    ceeg Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 New York

    I neglected to save a bottle of the Dry Hopped Dupont but I do have a bottle of Deux Amis that got me thinking about this issue.
     
  7. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Mixed-ferm stuff, sure, although I've had mixed results. Sometimes you get funk and effervescence, sometimes you get garbage water.

    As far as your more traditional saisons go, some of them hold up better than you might expect. I'm actually curious as to why but my guess is that there's a lot of active yeast in the bottle, more than the average bottle conditioned beer. I'm a big fan of Saison D'Epeautre by Blaugies for instance, and that stuff is never available anywhere close to fresh, but it's always good. I don't know that I'd age any of these beers on purpose though.

    Duex Amis has a bunch of American hops in it, right? If that's the case, I don't think it'll be a good one to age.
     
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  8. ceeg

    ceeg Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 New York

    Yes but it's got more spicy yeast characteristics that come through and that's why I was thinking of setting one aside. You're probably right that the hops will fade away.
     
  9. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Yeah they may also produce off notes in addition to just fading.

    Although, I've had aged La Vermontoise (Blaugies again), which is also loaded with Amarillo and it was just fine. Again though I don't think there was any improvement.
     
  10. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    Depends a lot on the beer, doesn't it? I remember having a few different Saisons from Fantome with a few years on them, quite nice.
     
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  11. ceeg

    ceeg Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 New York

    I was thinking of Fantome recently. I can get two different ones at my local. I think I'll do it!
     
  12. bloatednemesis

    bloatednemesis Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2015 Wisconsin

    About a year or so ago, I had a Door County Biere de Seigle Farmhouse Ale that was cellared just over a year. It was more effervescent, drier and vibrant tasting than I had remembered the fresh bottles. They don't make this one anymore, and I had only kept one bottle on a lark. Because of this, since this past spring I've been keeping a bottle or two of every pack I get. I'll be opening and comparing a number of them this coming spring/summer. I'm sure some won't work out, but some might. I'm pretty excited about getting to try them.
     
  13. tshanahan

    tshanahan Zealot (660) Apr 9, 2015 California
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    Is your avatar really a building complex shaped like the Millennium Falcon?
     
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  14. ceeg

    ceeg Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 New York

    Yes! Haha. I believe it's a high school somewhere.
     
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  15. SABERG

    SABERG Grand Pooh-Bah (5,001) Sep 16, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I have had great experience with 6-20 month aging of most Hill Farmstead Saisons.
    European Saisons up to 5 years, they run a bit dusty and lots of mineral elements.
    Cheers all
     
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  16. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Saisons are a very wide style, so it depends on the beer. I had an aged Hennepin that was great
     
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