Aging sours???

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by FightinIrish88, Mar 27, 2016.

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  1. FightinIrish88

    FightinIrish88 Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 New Jersey

    Any tips on aging sours, like how long to age them, what alcohol content can I age, do they age better if they're aged in wine barrels???
     
  2. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    Really depends on the type of beer you are talking about specifically; not all 'sours' are created equally. There are a bunch of threads in this forum already devoted to this topic, but the below are generally good guidelines.

    - Gueuze/Lambic are good for aging longer periods.
    - Always age upright. If there is a cork involved, tip the beer every few weeks/months to keep the cork moist (personal strategy here, but I have found it works for 3-6 year old beer).
    - Fruits will fade over time (generally).
    - Follow good temperature guidelines (at least less than 65, less than 60 if possible).
    - Beware of re/over-carbonation. If the beer is still live, as most wilds/sours are, you stand a higher chance of a gusher when you open it after some time.
     
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  3. Purpleman

    Purpleman Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2014 California

    What @boilermakerbrew said is basically it. Just crack'em by the sink with a glass ready just in case they gush!
     
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  4. briancroz12

    briancroz12 Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2008 Connecticut

    Exactly what @boilermakerbrew said. Verbatim.

    I have a 2010 Festina Peche that's been cellaring for nearly 6 years now at 55 degrees/55% humidity. However, I don't have a clue as to what a half decade has done to this. Since we're talking about a typical low ABV Berliner weiss, I'm expecting to either lose an eye or have a bottle of flat peach wine once I line it up with a '16 in a few months.
     
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  5. phildow

    phildow Crusader (407) Jan 6, 2013 Michigan

    I agree with what @boilermakerbrew said; however, I think there's not really much harm to storing on the side. I think the only con to laying the bottle on its side is that it might age slightly faster due to a larger surface area being exposed to the gas in the bottle. I've heard rumors that Cantillon, or maybe it was 3F, store their bottles on their sides, so it probably doesn't matter...just be sure to return it to its upright position at least 24h before drinking to allow sediment to settle.
     
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  6. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    Agreed. Side doesn't hurt necessarily, but to me, I prefer to lessen the risk of leaks. Cantillon and 3F do indeed store on the side, mostly due to space constraints and the bottles not being in their possession long before shipping is what I have heard.
     
  7. mich34

    mich34 Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Michigan

    I believe you don't want to stand it up if it was stored on it's side. I think you want to find a lambic basket (or make one out of a kleenex box like I've seen somewhere on the forum) to be able to pour and keep the bottle laid down between pours.
     
  8. parris

    parris Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I can confirm they lay bottles down at Cantillon.

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  9. elbrooksie

    elbrooksie Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Texas

    Sure, but c'mon, what do they know?
     
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  10. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Yes, you lay down Loons. Reduces sediment when pouring. They make Lambic baskets for this very reason.

    Here is a quick quote i found fromm a lambic basket article.
    Besides being aesthetically awesome, they are unique and functional. While storing a bottle in a lambic basket, the dormant yeast will settle in the corner of the bottle. Because the bottle is laying at an angle, there is little movement needed to pour the glass, resulting in a cleaner beer. The top breweries in the world have been using lambic baskets for many years.
     
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  11. AyeDogg

    AyeDogg Pundit (910) Oct 29, 2015 California
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    Unused shoes can be a cost effective lambic baskets :confused:
     
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  12. Omisco

    Omisco Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2016 Colorado

  13. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    The bottles are conditioned on their sides for 6 to 12 months before shipping, this is standard practice in the industry, not just those two breweries.
     
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  14. NJhiker1

    NJhiker1 Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2015 New Jersey

    Any one have tips on aging Cascade brews?
     
  15. parris

    parris Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Keep 'em as close to a constant 52F as possible, and with as little light as possible. Understand that their fruit flavors will fade a bit over time, and be prepared to lose a layer of tooth enamel once you finally drink it. All of the aged Cascade offerings I've had seem to age well.
     
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