Alesmith to NC

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  1. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    Alesmith only has distribution in the following counties (theoretically, don't know if Mims has -actually- distributed Alesmith to which counties)
    Chatham
    Durham
    Franklin
    Granville
    Orange
    Person
    Vance
    Wake
    Warren

    The only two that are east of Raleigh are Warren and Franklin and I don't know of any decent bottle shops in either county. If you want Alesmith, you'll more than likely need to drive the hour or so from 95 to Raleigh to get some. If you do, I'd probably call the shops first to make sure they have it since I don't know if shops are getting all the Alesmith they want yet.
     
  2. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    In my two recent trips to Raleigh, I have not had any problem finding Alesmith products on the shelves at most of the good craft beer shops - I found IPA, XPA, Speedway Stout, and Grand Cru just about everywhere.
     
  3. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    Good to hear. I don't make it to Raleigh more than a couple times a year, sticking mostly to Asheville/Hickory/Charlotte (plenty of beer in the region already!). Maybe one of these days I'll make it up to Raleigh again to pick up some Alesmith. So annoying when places distribute to only one of the metro areas in the state.
     
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  4. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I got the impression from someone in Raleigh at one of the bottle shops that Alesmith was entering in the Triangle but planning to expand to more of the state after they are sure they can meet the demand of the Triangle (about equal to the rest of the state from my understanding).

    When I lived in NYC you would see this a lot, entering the city first then expanding to the rest of the state.
     
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  5. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    I'm surprised to hear that the Triangle is approximately equal to the rest of NC. Charlotte is a larger city and while not quite as beer crazy as Raleigh there is still a significant demand in the market, as there is in the Triad (though less people and less demand than both the Triangle and Charlotte). Asheville certainly is crazy about beer, but I don't think they care as much about out-of-town beer (much less out-of-state beer).

    I guess what I'm getting at is that I would be surprised to hear that the Triangle is 25% of the total beer demand in NC and 50% -really- makes me raise my eyebrows. I can understand in New York where NYC almost certainly is more than 50% of the total beer demand of the state all in one place, it just irks me that breweries do this in NC as well.

    Clown Shoes did the same thing (though I don't know if I've actually seen them around in Raleigh or not). They went with Empire which, even though it is more of a statewide distributor, they only have distribution rights for Clown Shoes in the Triangle area. Honestly, I'm more upset about Clown Shoes than I am Alesmith as we almost certainly are never going to see BA Speedway in NC (would LOVE to be proven wrong on that one!), much less variants, and the standard lineup of Clown Shoes I like better than the standard lineup of Alesmith.
     
  6. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I think it has as much to do with population density of the Triangle (vs. just Raleigh), income per capita in the area, and beer demand. Also, just look at the high number of craft beer stores in the Triangle compared with other areas in the state - I'm talking about the high quality stores not the grocery/gas stations. I would also guess that the high number of high tech/bio-tech companies might have a larger interest in craft beer on average than say the finance industry (which I see as more wine consumers).

    Clown Shoes is available at Total Wines, at least the ones in the Triad area.
     
  7. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    I guess I could see that. Based on my working with high test companies and finance companies I'm not sure if I agree with those generalizations 100% though :slight_smile:

    For pure income per capita, Mecklenburg is basically tied at the top with Orange and Wake, with Durham being only a couple spots down. However, median family income is a decent bit higher for Orange and Wake, which tells me that there are more DINKs/smaller families in Orange/Wake, which could definitely affect beer demand. Then, as you say, you have the fact that in the Triangle you have Orange, Wake, and Durham all near the top of the income list with at least Wake almost the size of Mecklenburg, whereas Mecklenburg's surrounding counties (Iredell, Gaston, Catawba, etc) are all a decent bit further down the list except for Cabarrus, which is still fairly high up. Plus I guess you have the problem that a decent bit of Charlotte metro's population is actually not in NC, being in SC, and thus would have to have another set of distributors.

    I guess I get now why if you're going to try ONE market first it would be the Triangle. I just wish they'd hurry up and expand to the rest of the state :slight_smile: Plus, it'd be nice if everyone that expanding in this way didn't choose the Triangle. Someone could mix it up and try the Triad or Charlotte. Hell, I'd be really happy if they picked Hickory first :slight_smile:
     
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  8. ClownShoesDreams

    ClownShoesDreams Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2008 Massachusetts

    Our goal is to open NC for full distro sometime in 2015, hopefully early 2015
     
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  9. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    Woohoo! Great to hear! I drink it all the time when I'm in Minneapolis and really enjoy your stuff!
     
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  10. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    Though I guess one question is: Are you going to do actual full NC distro, or just all Total Wine stores? Have to drive at least an hour to Total Wine and would much, MUCH prefer to frequent my local bottle shops.
     
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  11. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Clown Shoes has been in Total Wines stores in NC (Winston-Salem and Greensboro) for 2-3 years - I'm assuming that is via a deal with Total Wines and distributed through them (not via local in-state distributor). I'm assuming they are going to be available at other stores via their expansion into NC - I think I saw them as some independent stores last time I was in Raleigh, about a month ago.
     
  12. gearzzzzz

    gearzzzzz Aspirant (295) Feb 13, 2009 Massachusetts

    Full distribution to stores and bars/restaurants. We're currently evaluating distributors and should be set for launch in early 2015.
     
  13. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
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    Good to know! Now back to our originally scheduled topic regarding Alesmith. Sorry for the threadjack!
     
  14. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    The 2010 population of the Triad was around 1.6 million and it has grown significantly since then. At that point it was 31st largest statistical area in the US. There is a big difference in income versus Charlotte and The Triangle.
     
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