All-grain, false bottom, grain particles in wort question

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  1. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    So I got a Grainfather recently and did my first brew with it on Saturday. Made a small error or two that hopefully won't affect too much except the initial clarity of the beer which I plan on (hopefully) fixing with gelatin. I don't know if I got my false bottom wrong or what, but I noticed some bits that looked like long rice grains, which I guess is the endosperm. I guess I want to know is how must 'stuff' do you expect to see in your wort when doing all-grain? I say almost none because that is what your vorlauf stage is for and the Grainfather does this constantly. I didn't want any of this in the boil and there was enough of it that I took a colander screen and fished quite a bit out.
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, there will be some/modest all-grain stragglers in all mashes and boils. Bottom line, keep most out of the fermenter by straining/aerating, whirlpooling with whirfloc/Irish Moss and/or use of a hopback/Hoprocket.

    Not familiar with "The Grainfather", but all false bottoms should be "seated" against the bottom of the mash tun so as to preclude seepage underneath....it's sort of self-correcting, but not absolutely depending on the bottom of your mash tun. Some people will split a piece of silicone tubing around the circumference of the false bottom to enhance the seal.
     
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  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I also use a stainless steel kitchen scrubber pad under mine to help even more.
     
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  4. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    <== envies limitless HB equipment budgets
     
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  5. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Debt is limitless. :wink::grinning:
     
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  6. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Just one?
     
  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Yep. Just one.
     
  8. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Incidentally, here are some videos.
     
  9. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    So I guess this is at the exit point, as a filter. Good idea.
     
  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I set it in the bottom of my keggle, and put the false bottom over it. It sits right under the dip tube heading out to the ball valve.
     
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  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    That wouldn't be as difficult to clean as I think, would it?
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't get solid pieces of grain in my wort. After vorlaufing, the wort is pretty clear. A tad hazy at worst.
    I'm not too familiar with the grainfather, but it sounds its the vorlauf process/false bottom configuration may not be ideal if you're getting solid chucks of grains.

    OTOH, I brewed on a 15 BBL system where some solids in the wort was unavoidable. I can't say it did any harm, and that brewery makes decent (not generally great) beers.
     
  13. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Thanks. I may be looking at an additional screen to lay on top of the false bottom.

    Incidentally, you reconstitute RO water. How long do you let this sit to make sure everything fully dissolves? What's your process, if it matters?
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I use distilled water. I put the salts in the bottom of the mash tun, add the heated strike water, and give it a quick stir. The standard brewing salts (with the exception of chalk) dissolve very easily in 160F+ water. I do let it sit for 10 minutes to equalize the water/tun temperature before I dough in, but I suspect the salts are mostly dissolved and dispersed without that extra time anyway. And even if there is anything left undissolved, there's also the dough-in stirring.
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Nope, I will take pics the next time I brew and post here.
     
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