Allagash: Pilsner with Brettanomyces

It's a B. brux. strain, which means that although it's a big ester producer, it is definitely POF+.

It's interesting, yes, but I wouldn't say that it's amazing. There's brett everywhere, especially brux and anomalus species, as they have a teleomorph/sporulating form (Dekkera).

Although ester hydrolysis is sped up with increased temperatures, esters will still hydrolyze at refrigerator temperatures. Much more slowly, but they definitely will. The phenols are always there, the esters simply obscure them, so when the esters start to fade the phenols become a more prominent aspect of the beer. It's only a matter of time.

 

They bottle Confluence, Interlude, Midnight Brett, and Tiarna with it.

I'd be interested in these answers as well.

FWIW, brett sp. do not need sacch. sp. to produce phenols and as long as fermentation temperatures are around 70F, that strain of B. brux will produce a lot of esters.

 

Their Brett strain is available from a yeast supplier... they don’t say it’s specifically theirs but if you follow the crumbs...

If three month old bottles of Little Brett don’t display any perceivable phenols then this beer only available on tap at select accounts won’t ever display any either.

 

I would try this. I looked at the Allagash locator, Pilsner with Brett is not mentioned yet.
I might have to break cover and check out a bar for this one, Mass. more likely than R.I.

 

Please see the BJCP guidelines to find out why an ester forward pilsner is not appropriate.

Is that a good enough source, powers that be?

 

??? Who cares that it’s not appropriate. I don’t think anyone here would ever be under the assumption that it would be appropriate nor did Allagash when they made it. Do you only drink appropriate beers? The fact that you write it off simply on semantics is odd.

I will probably never get to try it but if I lived in the Northeast I would definitely seek it out. Sounds really interesting, might be weird, might be rad, might create interesting flavor profiles you’ve never experienced before. Props to Allagash for continuing to produce innovative products, especially for a brewery of their size.

 

I'll keep my Pilsner separate from any Brett, thanks. I don't feel like infecting a perfectly good beer style. #GetOffMyLawn!

 

Nobody's writing off anything. Simple stated that it should not be called a pilsner, because it is not. Labels and names need to mean something.

 

Mehhhh

 

Although I’d try this out of curiosity, I’m thinking that when I drink a pilsner I do not want any of the flavors that I associate with Brett.

 

Victory made a Dry-Hopped Brett Pils as part of their Blackboard Series. I wasn't a fan, but I'd definitely give this one a try.

 

I wonder if this brett pilsner will be anything like Pizza Boy's Eternal Sunshine, which was an amazing, albeit expensive beer.

 

Yuck

 

For the doubters and naysayers and style **** types, go try this beer. I had it today and it is delightful. Rather than overwhelm, the Brett effect is subtle and enhances the pilsner aspects of the beer. Remarkably clean, plenty of flavor, well crafted beer.

I would certainly not say that there was a prominent ester profile to this beer.

 

People skeptical of this beer clearly don’t know what Allagash is about.

 

Larry, thanks for your input here.

If I see this beer I will indeed try it.

Cheers!