Almanac Beer Co. Sour Porter article

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  1. Pintofbrown

    Pintofbrown Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2011 Texas

    http://www.sfgate.com/wine/brew/art...-getting-a-new-spin-5132402.php#photo-5702262

    Pretty neat article saying that traditionally, this "sour porter" would have been how porters originally tasted. Also, the article had an interesting anecdote about porter kegs exploding and drowning people with beer???

    Any of our community beer historians able to give this article a look over and confirm/deny these things? Give some resources? Thanks people.
     
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  2. mrchrisray

    mrchrisray Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Ohio

    I just got the Almanac Sour Porter today as part of a trade along with another Almanac beer, Barrel Noir. I'm excited to try it tonight.
     
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  3. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    Pretty interesting article. I enjoy stouts and porters and this one sounds really interesting. Will definitely pick up a bottle if I see it!
     
  4. jwheeler87

    jwheeler87 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 Massachusetts

    Yeah from what I have read most English ales had some acidity from the wood that they fermented in. Old Ales especially had a tart bite to them from what I have read.

    Wasn't Porter a blend originally? I thought I read that somewhere. A blend of a dark ale and a stale ale, and that a bartender would blend the beers before serving them. Almost like a braggot in its original form. Something like that. I may be wrong.
     
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  5. DeanMoriarty

    DeanMoriarty Pooh-Bah (1,897) May 9, 2010 California
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    Great article and a great beer as well!
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    It was a large wooden vat that collapsed.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meux's_Brewery
     
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  7. impending

    impending Pooh-Bah (2,695) Mar 12, 2010 California
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    sour porter, for a long time I thought that was a waste of a porter
     
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  8. Pintofbrown

    Pintofbrown Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2011 Texas

    Yeah, this is what I had read too! That the porter was a blend of two or three cask brown ales, and the first porter was trying to approximate this blend.
     
  9. bayareahustla

    bayareahustla Zealot (656) Jul 13, 2012 California
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    Nice beer, and nice article.
     
  10. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    I think they're wrong. Porter was never sour the way Guieze is. There may have been a little tartness in aged Porter, but not out and out sourness. British strains of Brettanomyces don't produce huge amounts of acidity.

    We don't need to guess about the level of acisity, because there are plenty of analyses from the 19th century. British Medical Journal June 25th 1870, page 658 has analysese of several London Porters. The acidity level varies from 0.16% to 0.24%. Lambiks analysed in the 19th century had between 1.06 and 1.19% acidity.
     
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  11. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Porter wasn't emulating a blend of three beers. That story comes from a 19th-centiury misinterptratation of an 18th-century text. This was in a letter wrtten by Obadiah Poundage to a magazine in 1860:

    "They began to hop their mild beer more and the Publican started three, four, sometimes six butts at once, but so little idea had the brewer or his customers incurring the charge of great stocks of beer, that some moneyed people made a trade of purchasing their hopped beers at the first hand, keeping them sometime and when stale to dispose of the same to Publicans for £1/5/- per barrel and £1/6/- per barrel."

    It's the meaning of "started" that's important. The 19th-century misinterpretation took this to mean tapped. It actually means laying down to mature.
     
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  12. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    I bought one of these the other day. Looking forward to trying it.
     
  13. beerandnosh

    beerandnosh Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2010 California

    Hello! Jesse from Almanac Beer here. I just wanted to say that a thread is awesome. That is all.
     
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  14. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 California

    Keep up the good work. More like the Heirloom pumpkin and dogpatch please
     
  15. cestlavie

    cestlavie Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 New York

    Yes. Make more of everything. And send it to NY. With an awesome wholesaler. I know one. lol
     
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  16. KevSal

    KevSal Pooh-Bah (2,940) Oct 17, 2010 California
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    this beer is legit, i didnt think i was going to dig this as much as their previous sours, but now this is my favorite. There is a fantastic balance bewteen the roastiness and sourness that i did not think existed (came close with funk metal) and this one nailed it! for now atleast, i think this one is ready to go now, not sure age will improve this one, especially with its current perfect balance
     
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  17. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    This beer was great when I tried a sample, excited to see how the finished bottles are. Can't wait for the new batch of Dogpatch and the next farmer's reserve!
     
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  18. BeerBaron666

    BeerBaron666 Pundit (772) May 13, 2009 California
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    im excited as hell for those as well!

    ive had a few bottles of the bourbon sour porter..its great stuff! first few sips i tried i said WTF? but once i got used to it i really started to like it
     
  19. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Can't wait to try it when our buddy is back in town, thanks!
     
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  20. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    The very fact that dark and stale ales are mentioned mitigates against it being true,porters weren't ales but beers.Ale brewers and beer brewers were entirly separate groups.
     
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