Am I a bad trader?

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by LA_Hue24, Jun 11, 2015.

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  1. Dolomitey

    Dolomitey Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2015 Iowa

    What were the deals? My instinct is to side with the person that backed out presuming that only a few minutes of typing were wasted and knowing that the other trader took his displeasure to the extreme. Was it a trade for Brew Hub Sue? That would also make the retaliation suspect, IMO.
     
  2. LA_Hue24

    LA_Hue24 Crusader (472) Nov 20, 2013 California
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    Amen. Hope my trade history speaks for itself, not the one trade that didn't happe. What I still want to know is why @hustadaj waited until yesterday to leave the feedback?
     
  3. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    I had an agreed upon trade with a member here. He backed out, so I left appropriate feedback...then he pinged me with retaliatory feedback. So I reached out to the site admins about it...both feedbacks were expunged. Felt maybe his should have stuck because of him backing out, but because no beer was involved, it was decided that feedback wasn't appropriate from either side.
     
  4. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    No I think that just makes you normal. People dont write bad feedback months later for a trade that never happened.
     
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  5. LA_Hue24

    LA_Hue24 Crusader (472) Nov 20, 2013 California
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    I feel like "asshole" should be a compliment instead of an insult its such an important part of the body lol
     
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  6. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Having publicly viewable trades would be great to see trades that are actually being done. However anyone can put anything in and I'm sure there would be people putting trades in that didn't actually happen to increase their local beers trade value, because it's all about protecting/maximizing trade value. Just in case, :wink:
     
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  7. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Kudos to the OP for "outing" himself and asking the question. Bad move to back out of an agreed upon trade, but I don't think it warrants bad feedback since no beer changed hands, as others have noted. Bad feedback just feels kinda petty here.

    That said, I hope it's clear that the backing out is a definite no-no. Gotta treat that "accept trade" button like it's divine law. I also think it's worth saying, even if it comes across as moralizing, that I hope you didn't back out because you got a better offer, and I hope that, in the future, you don't avoid this situation simply by doing any auctioning more carefully. Figure out what you want in a trade; find a person who thinks it fair; agree to it; and make it happen. Simple as that.
     
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  8. LA_Hue24

    LA_Hue24 Crusader (472) Nov 20, 2013 California
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    So can the admins reverse the negative feed back if they deem it fair?
     
  9. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    Yeah...and they probably will since no beer was exchanged. I think Todd is the only one who can remove the feedback, so I'd reach out to him.
     
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  10. LA_Hue24

    LA_Hue24 Crusader (472) Nov 20, 2013 California
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    No that wasn't the case at all I responded to his ISO thread. The issue was that I was giving up quality for quantity and I felt I was going to regret it. I agree that I was wrong in backing out like that and I can only be more cautious moving forward. I just really hate seeing that 94% on my trade history
     
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  11. LA_Hue24

    LA_Hue24 Crusader (472) Nov 20, 2013 California
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    Will do thanks for the heads up
     
  12. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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    That seems pretty darn definitive. I stand corrected. If no beer shipped it is perhaps poor form but not a bad trade. Thanks follow r providing the insight.

    @LA_Hue24 - hopefully the mods can address. I do agree waiting 2 months is very uncool.
     
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  13. HugeBulge

    HugeBulge Savant (1,132) Dec 31, 2012 New York

    It stinks that you have to look at a 94% but its good for me and other traders. When I see you've backed out of a agreed upon trade I won't bother getting involved in the first place.
     
  14. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    Well I 100% support you because the guy that left feedback is a Green Bay packers fan. Packers are jerks! lol But no, I think what you did was fine. No one lost anything but time.
     
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  15. Vivified

    Vivified Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2014 California

    I wouldn't have left negative feedback, it would have been neutral and explained you back out after agreeing upon twice. I wouldn't trade with you though because if someone has proved their word means little, well they already proved it...
     
  16. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Maybe there needs to be another option for feedback: Neutral.

    In this case it is debatable whether the feedback is Bad or not, the alternative is OK, if I was leaving feedback on this one I would be uncomfortable leaving feedback as OK.
     
  17. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I wouldnt base my willingness to trade with someone because they backed out on a trade they later realized was unfair. Especially when there is little description to the proposed trade in the feedback. How do I know the other traded wasnt trying to bend him over on a deal?
     
  18. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    OP had opportunity to think about trade before I agreeing to it. Once he hit Accept button there should be no turning back.
     
  19. Vivified

    Vivified Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2014 California

    Agree 100%, hitting the Agree button and accepting a trade finalizes it. If you don't complete your end at that point, kind of a d-bag.
     
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  20. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I thought @hustadaj did a good job explaining the bad feedback. Clearly he felt that it warranted. I don't view a bad feedback the same as a "bad trader". Bad traders get their own threads and callouts. The bad feedback reflects the poor/negative experience of that trade. Backing out for better deals after the trade was accepted is a poor/negative trade experience and feedback should reflect that. Now, if @LA_Hue24 backs out again with a different trader and that resulted in another bad feedback, it would clearly make him a bad trader in my book, even if no thread was created for him.

    Maybe the feedback should be "Positive", "Neutral", and "Negative", not "Bad" , "OK", or "Good". The former set depicts individual experience, the latter tends to mis-convey more about the person as a whole.
     
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