American Beers = Overly Hopped

Oettinger got plenty of respect in my bier keller over there, at least certain styles... Mind you that was 04, not sure how its fared since...

 

I agree that most bars have a variety of styles, but many have, say, one brown ale, one porter, a couple Belgian style ales, two lagers, two stouts, 5 pale ales, and 15 IPAs. I exaggerate slightly, but at a lot of places that is only slightly.

 

I don't drink over the top hoppy beer and I have zero issue finding good beer to drink.

Americans Brew Beers = Because Overly Hopped Sell. FIFY

 

Talk to the owner - your patronage is what puts bread on the owner's table. You might also ask them why they have someone who doesn't drink beer (often the case) ordering their beer for them.

 

This is the second thread I've read from someone who's apparently fed up with being victimized by hoppy beers....and I don't understand either of them. There's so much variety out there that I find it very difficult to believe that some people's options are limited strictly to IPAs, DIPAs, etcetera. I think people would rather be pissed off about drinking hoppy beers instead of looking for the types of beers that they'd like to drink.

 

I'd love to find some of those breweries. I've found quite a few breweries I have personally given up on, because almost every beer they make is over-hopped to my taste, regardless of style - and all too often, those beers are hailed on sites such as this as a fantastic representation of the style they're allegedly part of, with very few mentions of any form of hop profile in reviews.

As it stands, I watch beers I loved, bought the crap out of, and introduced friends to get discontinued and replaced with Yet Another IPA/DIPA. I walk into craft beer establishments and note that the tap handles are at minimum 75% hop-forward beers, regardless of the actual style breakdown.

Sours and funky beers are starting to pick up, which is almost a relief to me - except the most common one is the saison (which often effectively means "IPA we put different yeast in"), and the other day I ran into a hop-forward gose.

Yes, I am able to find other options, and have some tried and true beers I consume regularly. I can just find them in fewer places, and I am watching some of them go out of production entirely. Meanwhile, I approach virtually every new beer I try from a US brewery like I'm petting a cat's belly - will I get a purr, or claws and teeth stuck in my hand?

Not much constructive here, just venting. Don't mind me. Carry on.

 

everyone palate is different. I think that stone just plain overhops everything. Only the enjoy by series has some balance in my opinion.

 

Just found this on another thread on extreme beer. Raises some points that touch on this discussion: http://tempestinatankard.com/2014/01/08/drinking-lager-in-an-age-of-extreme-taste/

 

Touche.. touche..

 

I think you are engaging in a significant amount of hyperbole. First, it is far from clear to me that the market is oversaturated with hoppy beers. They seem to be doing well in the marketplace and success begets success. As a result, I do not think we are yet at a point of saturation.

Second, to suggest everything now tastes the same and there is nowhere to go for balance and subtlety is a gross overstatement. I think of all of the summer wheat beers and oktoberfests and winter ales and vienna lagers and...

If everything you are drinking tastes the same you are either not looking very hard for variety or you are experiencing an issue with the old tastebuds.

Many American beers have hops as part of their major flavor profile because that seems to satisfy American tastes as measured by what sells. But there are a huge number of beers brewed today in America that are nothing like an APA, IPA, DIPA.

 

Still looking for a /s sarcasm tag.

 

Not sure what you said but I like it!

 

He said, "de gustibus non est disputandum."

 

Interestingly enough, chillies aren't native to India, China, or Thailand, even though all have come to be known for their spicy foods.

 

The difference is that really hoppy beers can be good while burnt coffee really isn't.

 

So don't drink it!! Plenty of other beers to chose from.

 

If you think the current craft beer scene in American is boring, then you are looking in the wrong places.

I agree there are a plethora of mediocre pales, IPAs, and DIPAs out there, but there's also a rising number of unique and previously obscure styles hitting the market. Everything out there does not taste the same, but if you want something different look for something different. A hoppy American made Belgium Pale is not that surprising to me. Now if your Gose, or Kolsch, or Lictenhainer starts tasting like high alpha acid hops, then you have a reason to complain.

 

All the Vienna lagers? Locally I have one, and the only one I know of that's widely available was Sierra Nevada's which debuted in their fall pack this past year. Boston Lager, while widely available, is not a Vienna lager.

 

I have to disagree as I am one of "those who are just wetting their toes" and I specifically try to avoid IPAs. If all I tried were IPAs I would never have even tried more than a couple of beers. I've been mainly buying European beers and have liked almost all of them. I just today finally bought a Sierra Nevada Celebration IPA to try. I know that there are different types of hops (even though I've not gotten that deep into it yet) and I actually remember trying Schlafly Tasmanian IPA after the Bottleworks tour and while I dreaded even sampling it, in the end it ended up being pretty good. However, I've been sampling beers for probably a year or so now and today was the first day I bought an IPA.