American IPA Recipe Question

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  1. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I've been homebrewing for about 12 years, but it's been a long time since I've brewed an American IPA, which I am doing today. Thought I would run this recipe by you all. This is batch one of an upcoming total of four batches of ipa. The later batches will have the same grain bill but with some different hop combos. Let me know your thoughts as I would like some ideas for future tweaks.

    American IPA

    10 gallon batch

    26 lb Briess 2 Row
    1 lb Crystal 60
    .25 lb Crystal 135-160
    .1 lb Roasted Barley

    6.5 g strike water, 60 minute infusion at 148 degrees
    8.5 g sparge at 180 degrees

    Calcs OG = 1.076, FG=1.023, ABV=6.84%

    Hops

    2 oz Warrior 16.5 AAU 60 min.
    2 oz Mosaic 11.6 AAU 15 min
    1 oz Centennial 9.0 AAU 15 min
    2 oz Mosaic 11.6 AAU 5 min
    1 oz Centennial 9.0 AAU 5 min
    2 oz Amarillo 8.4 AAU 0 min
    1 oz EKG 5.7 AAU 0 min
    2 oz Amarillo 5.7 AAU Dry Hop

    IBU Calc 89

    Wyeast West Yorkshire 1469
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Overall this looks like a tasty recipe.

    A few comments:

    I really don’t think you will notice the EKG at the end of boil addition. EKG is a very, very subtle hop as compared to American aroma hops. Adding that 1 ounce won’t do any ‘harm’ but you really won’t notice it either.

    I have homebrewed with 1469 in making Bitter Ales several times. That yeast produces a very nice ester profile when fermented warm (e.g., 70° F). Most folks use a neutral yeast (e.g., California Ale yeast) when making American style IPAs. I would not discourage you from using 1469 but I just wanted to ‘warn’ you that this yeast is not a neutral strain.

    Good luck with your IPA!

    Cheers!
     
  3. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Why are you adding the touch of roast barley? Assuming you want a little caramel sweetness, I like the mix of the two caramel malts.


    I would not bother with the EKG or the Amarillo along with the Mosaic and Centennial. Any reason you are not using the Mosaic and Centennial at 0 min? I would consider using a mix of all three at 15, 5, 0 mins if you want to use all 3 in the same beer.

    If you want to play with hop combos, Mosaic and Centennial then Mosaic and Amarillo would be a good potential contrast. You could also try Centennial and Amarillo without the Mosaic.
     
  4. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I agree -- rethink the EKG and the 1469. I won't make any other hop recommendations, since your plan is to change it up on subsequent batches. I assume the .1 oz of roast barley is for color (do I win?). Other than that, I think this looks good.
     
  5. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    The roast barley is for color. 1469 is my "house" yeast. I primarily brew English style ales and really like the 1469. If it doesn't work this time around I'll look at a more neutral yeast next time. Thanks for the comments so far!
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    If you like 1469, I think you will like it with an IPA. I have a 1469 IPA dry hopping now. It's common for people to default to neutral Amercan yeasts for IPAs, but I sometimes use less neutral yeasts for IPAs and usually like the results. The other non-American yeasts I like for IPAs are Scottish ale (1728) and Thames Valley (1275). For Belgian IPAs, I like Ardennes (3522) and Duvel (1388). All are fermented in the low-mid 60s to keep the esters relatively low.
     
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  7. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I really enjoy Wyeast 1450 for IPA/IIPAs. A consideration for the future.

    I would also leave out the EKG. And finally, for insperation, perhaps consider looking at the homegrown IPA recipe.
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    1469 will most definitely ‘work’. It just will create a different character than if a neutral yeast like California Ale yeast was used. It is entirely possible that you would prefer an American style IPA brewed with 1469 vs. a neutral yeast strain.

    Cheers!
     
  9. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Other than Simcoe and Chinook, you are already using the best hops for an American IPA (IMHO)...why not tweak the yeast on the next 3 batches? Looks good...cheers
     
  10. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    A FG of 1.023 is a mite high for an American IPA, I would attempt to lower about ten points. Easy to substitute some sugar for grain . . . give the hops less competition for dominance.

    As stated, EKG is a pipsqueak on the playground . . . will be seriously bullied by the American hops. I like the mix of three high aroma hops. You might consider shifting a little more to FO and maybe mixing up the DH.

    You listed a sparge of 180 . . . is that a typo?
     
  11. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    1.023 is pretty sweet for an IPA. Maybe that's how you like it? My IPA with 1469 finished at 1.010 which is right where I like it. I used about 10% sugar to get that low.
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    FG estimates...are just that...estimates. With that minimal amount of crystal, I'm sure it will finish lower even without the substituted sugar...if it doesn't then using a more attenuative yeast is also a good idea as others have said.
     
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  13. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    That was my calculated FG, though my beers regularly finish lower than they calculate. I'm thinking of subbing some sugar next time, though, if it finishes too sweet.
     
  14. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Color was great too after chilling. Hopefully as nice after fermentation.
     
  15. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Next time I'll probably just save the EKG for later.
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    My personal experiences with 1469 is that it is highly attenuative yeast. I actually add more crystal malt then 'normal' for my Bitter Ales to 'compensate' for 1469.

    Absolutely no need for sugar here.

    Cheers!
     
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