An Observation on AAL

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Ahonky, May 7, 2018.

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  1. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    A couple of my local/regional breweries have entered this segment. I treat 'em like I do all AALs: once for the tick, and then I'm done. I don't like the style, and don't drink 'em.
     
  2. JoePasko

    JoePasko Zealot (529) Mar 10, 2018 New York

    The microbrew/craft beer movement of the late 20th century
    was not an expansion or further development of the
    the existing US beer market. It was a rebellion against it,
    and offered an alternative to it.

    (Or maybe that's just how I choose to remember it.)
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Not too surprisingly some BAs view this as an either/or proposition. Either you are a craft beer drinker (and thereby only drink craft beer) or you are the other type of beer drinker.

    I personally choose to not view this as being an either/or proposition. While the majority of the beers I drink are what many (most?) folks would classify as being craft beer I have no issues with drinking AAL beers from time to time. I will freely admit that when it comes to drinking AAL beers I am selective in which brands I drink.

    Cheers!

    P.S. Shemp's is an AAL!:wink:
     
  4. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    As mentioned earlier in this thread, Yuengling and Schell's have been competing successfully for the AAL drinker for decades upon decades. That doesn't mean Founders will successfully break into this market, but it does indicate there IS a market for regional AAL.
     
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  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Bingo! It's always been about increasing variety and choices, not reducing them. Jeez!
     
  6. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Founders is a pretty national brand. Their distribution web is pretty far beyond regional in my opinion. http://www.grbj.com/articles/87639-brewery-extends-distribution-footprint
    Apparently ya they are a few states away. While I agree yuengling is pretty regional and there is definitely a market for a regional AAL that founders isn’t gonna be looked at in a regional spotlight. Founders is everywhere and therefore competing with AB and sabmiller.
     
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  7. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    And as they walk past you, they think "let him sip his pumpkin peach ale ... I'm going to enjoy some golden suds brewed the hard way!”

    I'd be curious how it fares! At some point, I should probably blind taste it against my favorites and see how it fares.
     
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  8. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Actually, it's probably more like, "Fuckin' nerds."
     
  9. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Well yes, but that was a reference to the infamous Budweiser commercial :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  10. Dan411

    Dan411 Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2017 Missouri

    While I haven't gone back to drinking AAL beers (I used to be fairly brand loyal, and only drink Keystone Ice and Coors), I find that the occasional lager really helps to "reset" my palate. It's a good beer to start a session off with. In general, I think we are all doing ourselves a disservice to only stick to one or two styles.
    I am a Founders homer, but I was kind of meh with Solid Gold. Firestone Walker's Lager on the other hand is good, as is Deschutes Pacific Wonderland Lager.
     
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  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I know. I got it. The question would be, "Is the average macro drinker as witty as you are?" I wouldn't think so.
     
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  12. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    nerd.
     
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  13. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    *Paul Mooney Voice*

    Everybody wanna drink an 'AAL', but dont nobody wanna drink an AAL. In other words, a lot of folks on here would be willing to buy something like a Founders Solid Gold or FW Lager, but wouldnt drink the Bud Heavy or PBR standing next to it even though they are probably very similar in taste. Like previous posters have stated AALs have their proper time and place. If and when I indulge, I go with an option like Hamms or Narragansett - cheap and inoffensive, easy to drink.
     
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  14. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    Oh I disagree. Look at the WAYD
    Agreed - but I am talking specifically about AA lagers, which is the leading style in the US, but among those who float in this space, there is a noticeable opening of the arms, which I believe is a function of Father Craft giving a nod to approach.
     
  15. Ahonky

    Ahonky Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2018 New York

    I'm not saying anything is wrong, if you like what you like. I just see a shift and I don't think it all comes down to taste

    After all, there is something embarrassing about being singled out as the guy who ONLY drinks "craft beer". Even if it is true, it signals a sense of difficulty...like oh great, we gotta make sure cunty has his special beer or he'll pout.
     
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  16. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    I like AALs from time to time. In the age of NEIPAs and pastry stouts, sometimes I want something cold, light, bubbly, refreshing, and relatively flavorless. In fact, I just bought a sack of pilsner malt so that I can brew a bunch of non-hoppy lagers, one of which I plan to be an adjunct lager. Meanwhile, I have three cans of hazy triple IPA I haven't touched in months. Variety is the spice of life, after all.

    The thing that bothers me, though, is when breweries and craft drinkers try to have it both ways. They brew/drink cream ales and "Mexican" lagers, but would never let an AAL or "light beer" pass their lips, craft or otherwise. A local place here brews a light lager and a malt liquor, and I applaud them for it. No need to be pretentious about it.
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    But those are AAL beers despite the geographical nomenclature.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    Haha, everytime I think I forgot about paul mooney...
     
  19. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    That's exactly my point. If you will drink a beer called a Mexican Lager, but not a beer simply called an AAL, you're fooling yourself. And I think it's fair to say that a fair number of craft drinkers fall into that category.
     
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  20. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I don't look at it as an "either or". I look at it more like, "I always want to drink the most flavorful beer that I can at any given time." Sometimes that happens to be an AAL, but not very often.
     
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