An Observation on AAL

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  1. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I prefer to use the term best, myself, but yeah, the situation will determine what flavor of best will do.
     
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  2. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    And if best comes cheap so much the better.
     
  3. fx20736

    fx20736 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 New York

    The best thing I've read here in a while
     
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  4. InfiniteJester23

    InfiniteJester23 Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2017 Norway

    I'm not a big AAL fan, and don't really have a preference between MGD and Solid Gold (but definitely would prefer either of those to Bud). But my father, who is a lifelong MGD drinker, and would enjoy a craft beer every now and again but then return to drinking MGD, has finally switched: he now buys more Founders Solid Gold than BMC products. I dunno, but I'd say that's something.
     
  5. JoePasko

    JoePasko Zealot (529) Mar 10, 2018 New York

    That's okay, man. Neither were Jim Koch, Bill Newman, Jack McAuliffe, Fritz Maytag...
     
  6. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    I think in general there is some IPA palate fatigue coupled with the fact that it’s warming up in most parts of the country and everyone needs a lawnmower beer.
     
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  7. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    Also just bought two 12 packs of the new Firestone Lager.

    Hadn’t seen it mentioned yet but prefer it to solid gold (which I thought was solid)
     
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  8. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    That may be true, but in my opinion if I'm going to be drinking a style I want to give my money to a brewer that understands quality and that isn't a mega-conglomerate. I feel like a lot of "craft" beer enthusiasts feel the same way, preferring to give independent brewers the money instead of these behemoths in our industry.
     
  9. Boomer4ES

    Boomer4ES Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2012 North Carolina

    It sounds like maybe you just don't appreciate a good lager and are trying to turn that into something that it's not. Solid Gold is a fantastic beer.
     
  10. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    My understanding and experience is that its not AAL - its more in the vein of a helles lager. That being said, it is a good beer.
     
  11. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    It’s brewed with corn so it’s an AAL.
     
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  12. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Firestone lager? No its not.
    https://www.brewbound.com/news/firestone-walker-releases-firestone-lager

    EDIT:
    Same thing is listed on Firestone Walker's website: https://www.firestonelager.com/profile/
     
  13. dcall384

    dcall384 Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2011 Indiana

    I wish 30 racks were that cheap here. PBR, High Life, and Strohs are around $20 for 30. Hamms is the only exception, which I drink plenty of. I know everyone has different tastes, but I think solid gold has more flavor than other AALs. Just my opinion though.
     
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  14. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    But where you live - doesn't Yuengling, Straub, Lionshead, Narragansett, etc already fill that niche?

    All are independently owned Regional Breweries producing adjunct lagers, and sell for cheaper than Founders Gold or any other "craft" lagers.
     
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  15. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    But when it is there it is always labeled "brewers rice". Now this is in bottom line chow.
     
  16. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Opps wrong beer was thinking of Founders Gold.:slight_frown:
     
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  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Dog food labeling doesn't tell us much at all about the actually quality of the rice actually used in beer. The FDA has specified quality grades and criteria and there is no such FDA quality category as "brewer's rice," just as there is no such FDA quality category as "Sushi Rice." So calling it "brewer's rice" by the dog food manufacturer is quite likely a marketing technique to try and make dog owners think they have a reasonable dog food to sell.

    Also we have no idea of the source of the rice used in dog food. All the rice used in Budweiser is contract grown here in the US and has to be of a certain FDA standard of quality before AB will accept and pay for it. Can your dog food producers say the same? They could well be using "brewer's rice" to describe the left overs that AB doesn't purchase from the farmers or the rice that AB decides not to use after their own in-house quality inspections.
     
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  18. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Yeah agreed, but I feel like I'm fortunate to live in an area that has a ton of variety in this specific style. Others aren't so lucky, and I for one think Founders is better than all of those beers outside Yuengling, and marginally so as well.
     
  19. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    I haven't had the Founders beer, but I would be interesting how it would perform in a blind taste test without any of the "craft beer bias".

    But also, I would hope their beer offers some taste advantage, considering according to BeerMenus.com, it looks like it sells in PA for $13 - $17 for a 15 can pack. Double the price of Yuengling Premium, and also more than Yuengling Traditional Lager.
     
  20. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Correction: There is an FDA category called Brewer's Milled Rice. My memory failure. That category is based on the number/percentage of broken grains in the samples. Too many broken grains gets the sample graded as Brewer's Milled Rice.

    However it also appears that whether the grains of rice are broken or not does not have any impact on the quality of a brewed beverage (based on an extensive discussion in a thread on this topic with contributions from several homebrewers with experience in using rice in brewing).
     
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