An RIS in 6 Months?

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  1. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I am looking to do an RIS that would be drinking like it was aged 1yr or more within 6 months. Are there any process or recipe intentions that can make that more feasible.

    Such as keeping the ABV under 10% or keeping the FG under 1.030 or late hopping with aroma hops to balance the bitter early on? Adding the roasted malts during the sparge? I'm trying to come up with a recipe and process that gives me a fighting chance for a presentable RIS for a good size event. I've only brewed one before (Stone RIS clone) and it was drinkable at best.

    I have figured out from brewing a number of porters, that I really like more of the chocolate and roasted malts and less of the ones that impart dark fruit flavors. Any help with a recipe for 5 gal would be appreciated.
     
  2. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Slightly overpitching yeast, plenty of O2 at pitch, with a sidecar 12hours later, staggered nutrient additions, gradual ramping of fermentation temp after the first 5-7 days, force carbonate?
     
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  3. Generous_Beer_Lover

    Generous_Beer_Lover Aspirant (286) Oct 30, 2014 North Carolina
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    6 Months is a decent amount of time given all the advice MrOH said. Just ferment well, transfer after a 2 weeks/month and bulk age for 5 months and carb the remainder. Be oxygen savvy, oxidized stouts are the worse so be careful about exposure post ferment. It won't be as good as it can be, like a year or so, but certainly delicious.
     
  4. mbbransc

    mbbransc Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 North Carolina

    5 wks ago I brewed a big imperial stout. Over-pitched the yeast and kept it cool the first 3-days. Then brought the temp up to ferment out. Let it sit in primary 4wks and racked to purged keg. I plan to let it bulk age until the fall and bottle off the keg once I dial in the carb level.

    Good luck!
     
  5. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

  6. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Would filling the kiddie pool with water and adding sea salt be a reasonable substitute...
     
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  7. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    No, Sir. Insufficient pressure, temperature and turbulence.
     
  8. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I think 6 months is more than enough time to age a well made RIS using your basement.
     
  9. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    You can brew a beautiful Imperial stout in six weeks. You don't need six months. If you like roasted flavors use a plenty of roasted barley (that's roasted but unmalted barley) as well as perhaps some debittered black malt like Weyermann Carafa III. I love the flavor that carafe III adds. Plus I eat the stuff like cocoa puffs, man. Add some regular black patent malt to get some of the more astringent, "burnt" flavor, but no more than a quarter to a half pound (max) for a 5 gallon batch. I used 3/4lb once and it was definitely on the harsh side. The other specialty malts typical of imperial stouts are more for the dark fruit flavors. Use those perhaps a bit more sparingly. If you want to simulate age on some of your beer, try bottling some with extra head space and get a little oxidation.
     
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  10. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    Agreed, that's how you get good strong fermentations that are finished quickly. I pitch big starters almost always unless there is a specific recipe that wants tired yeast to produce some specific esters. And o2! On a big beer, I too will give it an extra shot after 12 hours. The yeast are still in early stages of the process. They'll appreciate the jolt, and you don't have to worry about oxidation yet.
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Sidecar? What is this? As for staggered nutrient additions, I've never thought to do this with beer. Sort is pretty nutrient rich, although you might want to use something with zinc in it at the start?
     
  12. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I tend to always use Servomyces in my beers 10 minutes left in the boil. When and what else would go into the process. I thought that supplement covered a lot.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Meant to type wort
     
  14. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I don't know about specific hints for age tasting like 1 year @ 6 months. However, at a very high level I follow the run of thumb, 1 week per degree plato at a min for brews I intend to age. 1.030 FG and 10% ABV would give you 1.106 OG (25 deg plato), for a resulting 25 weeks or spot on 6 months. You're well within reason if you brew now.
     
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  15. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    It's definitely doable. Try an old raspy clone: http://byo.com/hops/item/1182-north-coasts-old-rasputin-the-replicator

    4 weeks in primary, then straight to bottling. It was drinking great just a few weeks after that. I brewed it back in early December of 2014, so after 4+ months of bottle conditioning it's already developing some good 'aged stout' character, IMO.
     
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