Anchor Porter --- Diacetyl?

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  1. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Savant (971) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    I have been slowly sipping on a Anchor mixed 12 pack over the last two months. Anchor is such a great overlooked brewery which has been putting out great everyday beers for a long time.

    With that said I have not tried Anchor Porter until recently. The first bottle I didn't enjoy but didn't think too much into it (I don't think too in depth about most the beers I drink btw). The next bottle I held off drinking for awhile but dug into it last night and notices a huge diaceytl issue. With it having such a high rating on here I am wondering if anyone else has noticed this.
     
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  2. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Aspirant (266) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    I just had it and didnt notice that.
     
  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (1,792) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I haven't had it lately (shame on me), but always thought it was there but subtle and well-integrated- more of a feature than a bug. Definitely less noticeable then in Samuel Smith's beers. In fact, I wondered how they have kept it under control all these years. Maybe there is an off batch from time to time?
     
  4. Harnkus

    Harnkus Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 New York

    Definitely an English porter for certain.
     
  5. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (1,849) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Never had a problem with dactyl in AP, always a favorite.

    Some people are more sensitive to the character.
     
  6. Ieatlambfries

    Ieatlambfries Zealot (560) Dec 5, 2003 New Jersey

    As I was reading the the initial post I thought, "sounds like the Taddy Porter flavor."
     
  7. misterid

    misterid Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 Wisconsin

    never thought of it as being intentional.. but.. yeah.. i thought about Samuel Smith, too.
     
  8. Domingo

    Domingo Poo-Bah (2,187) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    While I haven't had it specifically in that beer, I have gotten very very mild diacetyl in a couple of their other (non-flagship) beers. I always figured it was because they were using English ale yeasts and it was just a small byproduct. The exception was Red Maple. That beer was a mess on several levels, with butter being a major issue.
     
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  9. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Savant (971) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Strange that no one else has picked it up in this specific beer. Glad no one has called me crazy yet either. It was definitely there to the point it was very noticeable and outside of the acceptable style range.

    Could have been just a specific batch, but I would think a brewery as large as Anchor wouldn't have QC issues like that so idk.
     
  10. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Zealot (537) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota
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    AP is the only Anchor beer I've had (and Good Lord did I love it... need to pick up some more sometime) Didn't pick up on diacetyl, but on the other hand, I'm not sure I've ever picked up on diacetyl, so I could easily miss it. I have always thought that Mich. Golden Light has a buttery flavor, but it's consistent.
     
  11. prock180

    prock180 Aspirant (299) Mar 9, 2013 Arizona

    I have noticed this too. First time I noticed was a few months back and then again recently. It was so detectable I was turned off by it. Hopefully they can fix that small issue cuz I really used to like anchor porter.
     
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  12. WillyB123

    WillyB123 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2014 California

    I've been drinking a sixer of AP over about 3 days and it has tasted usual to me. That diacetyl flavor seemed to be intentional to me. I'm thinking maybe a few bad bottles or batch or something. I think the sixer I have was bottled Feb. 4th. And for the record, I'm a strong believer that Anchor Porter is the best beer ever made.
     
  13. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Savant (971) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Bold statement! The bottles i had were from November.
     
  14. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (1,849) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    And you've picked up dacetyl in the past? I've been drinking it for close to 30 years and never picked it up -- and I'm someone who doesn't mind a little dacetyl in the right beer.

    Makes me wonder if the new owners might be monkeying around.
     
  15. LordCrabapple

    LordCrabapple Initiate (151) Sep 5, 2006 United Kingdom (England)

    I think Anchor Porter is a flawless beer. I can't think of another beer that has given me greater pleasure to drink.
     
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  16. afrokaze

    afrokaze Zealot (579) Jun 12, 2009 Arizona
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    Imo the only mistakes Anchor has made were cancelling the Bock and Humming Ale! Otherwise one of the best out there. A little diacetyl is appropriate for the English style porter, but I've never picked up much in Anchor's.
     
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  17. LordCrabapple

    LordCrabapple Initiate (151) Sep 5, 2006 United Kingdom (England)

    There is a rich banana (and prune) taste to the beer which is unusual. For me it is an American classic (not 'English style' at all), one of the greatest American beers (Anchor claim it was the first modern American porter).
     
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  18. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (1,792) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    It could have happened after it left the brewery- all it takes is the precursors to diacetyl, plus whatever oxygen gets in at bottling, plus the time to develop. I'd be curious what they would say if you let them know about it- maybe they are unaware of what is going on.
     
  19. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Savant (971) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    That's a good point. I will see if I can find the bottle in the recycling bin and send them an email.
     
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  20. millses90

    millses90 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2013 Virginia

    Very flavorful. I can taste their porter right now...
     
  21. WillyB123

    WillyB123 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2014 California

    I was wondering the same. I mean, I haven't been drinking for that long, but the new owners certainly have a vision that, in my opinion, is much different from the original Anchor. The exclusion of bock and humming with the addition of another IPA and a saison. Those moves are definitely based on what's hot right now, not based on making good beer. I'm worried that Anchor has the idea that it needs to stay relevant by coming out popular styles, when the fact that they make really, really solid beer is enough for them to stay relevant for a while. Not that they shouldn't make a new IPA, but I feel like Steam, Porter, Liberty are some of the most solid, great beers you can find anywhere. I didn't get that from their new IPA, it was just good.
     
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