Any Good Breweries Still Shipping to NY?

I now regret not using the free shipping coupon from Adroit Theory in December.

They then sent out an email at the beginning of the year saying their contract with the shipping company would no longer include NY. Now with HalfTime being a 20 min drive, and fronting beers from pretty much everywhere it's not a huge issue except their selection is paradoxically limited (or maybe I'm just saddened by all the options these New Hampshirites and Pennsylvanians now literally have at their doorstep), and paying $7-8 retail for a single irks me. What happened NY?

 

A little bummed NY seemingly stopped all out-of-state beer shipping. I was really enjoyed being able to try breweries more than 150 miles away, and to experience some trends in other parts of the country.

Thanks for the suggestions. I may take Threes up on the discount they offer, and also might place an order from Prison City.

 

I've reviewed a couple of their beers. Some from a few years ago were on-draft when I visited. Sure, there was some built in hype atm, but the DDH Mass Riot really impressed.
I really really liked Riot in '29. Not the most insane IPA on any level, but it really did have an ideal blend of quality, drinkability and flavor. Really could drink, and would want to drink multiples which isn't the case for a lot of well-rated IPAs these days. The ironic part is I actually remember tasting Riot in '29 when I was there (I believe it can be considered a core brew), but I definitely didn't appreciate it as much back then.

I still have a can of Riot in VT that I picked up at Halftime, so let's see if the positive trend continues.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/23/dining/drinks/interstate-wine-sales-shipping-laws.html

It's more nuanced than Cuomo shutting it down. The article sums it up that "In the last year or so, carriers like United Parcel Service and FedEx have told retailers that they will no longer accept out-of-state shipments of alcoholic beverages unless they are bound for one of 14 states (along with Washington, D.C.) that explicitly permit such interstate commerce."

After COVID, it was almost like the Wild West in terms of people looking the other way when it came to specific laws. (Who remembers speeding past cops with impunity those those first couple months?)

But I think whatever political pressure the distributors or beer stores exerted forced shipping companies to roll-back on their newly minted liberal policies. I don't think the law changed at all, but more certain companies now obeying it. For example, when Adroit Theory sent me the notice saying they would stop shipping to NY, they never blamed it on our laws. Instead, they mentioned "changes" in the contract with their shipping company.

Maybe Burial's contract is for longer and in better terms. Maybe they use a different company. But the article reinforces my observation that it seems like the same dozen or so states can get beer shipped to them.

 

Sorry mate, it was what google regurgitated after I put some phrase into its search engine. Notwithstanding the impact of wholesalers play because of their role within the three-tier system, the real issue seems to be constitutionally based more in interstate commerce. Otherwise, why is shipping beer within state allowed? None of these NY state breweries shipped direct-to-consumer prior to the pandemic, so the pandemic really punctuate the penumbra of this legal issue. Are state laws that prohibit out-of-state direct-to-consumer shipping but allow intrastate shipping unconstitutional under the Dormant Commerce Clause. Are they advancing some legitimate local purpose, or is the predominant effect of the law protectionism? In the past, the legitimate 'local purpose' was local prohibition, and 'protecting' citizens from alcohol produced from other states where there weren't any such laws. Today, the most common circulated reasoning is based on distribution to minors. In my opinion, there is at best a highly attenuated relationship to public health or safety.

Here's a better article that perhaps deals more acutely with my cognitive dissonance, and one that recognizes the impact of COVID on whetting people's appetites for DtC options
https://www.foodandwine.com/news/beer-direct-customer-shipping-state-laws-why-not

The boom of direct-to-consumer shipping has opened up a Pandora's Box where some out-of-state breweries took advantage of a lack of regulatory oversight. Perhaps, some legal basis can be made on the back of Tennessee Wine and Spirits Assn. v. Thomas that will give more power back to the consumer. Currently, there are current bills on the assembly floor allowing DTC liquor and cider. But I still can't find anything pertaining to beer. So, my fellow New Yorkers let's start writing our representatives. Power to the people!

 

Yes, the thread took a detour down civic lane.

I hope NY extends the "to go privileges" a bit. There are some breweries situated next to the rail trail near me. It was nice to get some exercise with the beer.

I had not forgotten to check out Burial, and will definitely be placing an order from them down the road.

 

Playing around with styles and quantities at Prison City. I added a case of mixed 4 packs and got to $38. Buying two of the mixed 12 was only $18. You'd think same weight, same price.

Not sure how these shipping contracts work, but it's becoming more evident they are not all created equal.