Anyone seen a confirmed lineup for Sam Adams Winter Classics?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by davedog_7, Oct 15, 2020.

  1. davedog_7

    davedog_7 Initiate (95) Jun 26, 2017 Georgia

    assuming they're going to continue on with the ridiculous 'format' the adopted last year, which has Boston Lager and '76.

    If it still has Old Fezziwig, I'll probably pop for one, but I really wish they'd go back to how they used to do it, with 6 styles and no '76.

    I guess they felt they were losing money, but I haven't purchased the fall pack in 2 years due to their approach, and will buy maybe 1 winter pack again this year. Used to buy 3-4 of each before they changed it for the worse.

    Anyway, rant over, just wondering.
     
  2. jgido759

    jgido759 Disciple (307) Oct 7, 2014 New Jersey

    From what I am hearing, Old Fezziwig is definitely missing from this year's Winter Classic. It will only be available at the Sam Adams Tap House and brewery.

    It is also missing from their web site under "Seasonal Brews". . .
     
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  3. DCH

    DCH Aspirant (251) Jun 12, 2013 New York

    I know it's a REAL long shot, but chocolate bock and black lager would be a Christmas miracle:beers:
     
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  4. jgido759

    jgido759 Disciple (307) Oct 7, 2014 New Jersey

    Total Wine has an image of the box on their web site, and this is what it shows:

    Boston Lager
    Sam 76
    Winter Lager
    Holiday White Ale
    American IPA
    Holiday Porter
     
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  5. MrOH

    MrOH Meyvn (1,286) Jul 5, 2010 Maryland

    Pass again.

    BL
    Winter Lager
    Old Fezziwig
    Holiday Porter
    And whatever bullshit for the last two slots.

    Really they should just put those four out.
     
  6. DCH

    DCH Aspirant (251) Jun 12, 2013 New York

    Yeah, that sounds about right... another pass this year, for me at least.
     
  7. Runnerhiker

    Runnerhiker Initiate (44) Jun 4, 2019 North Carolina

    That's a disappointment. When are they going to just admit defeat with Sam 76?

    I also really miss their Scotch Ale. One of my all time favorite Winter beers.
     
  8. davedog_7

    davedog_7 Initiate (95) Jun 26, 2017 Georgia

    Dang, no Fezziwig? Hard pass. Holiday Porter is fine, but not anywhere near worth buying the whole pack.

    That's really disappointing. Thanks for the info.
     
  9. AWA

    AWA Disciple (326) Jul 22, 2014 California

    I really can't remember the last time I bought anything from Sam Adams. I feel kinda bad, because I realize how important they are to craft beer, but they've just been so boring for the last few years. And I think I'm being generous with the word few. Maybe I'll spring for a Utopia someday and make it up to them. Pretty sure it will just let me down to though.
     
  10. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Devotee (497) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Heard it’s BL, Sam 76, Twisted Tea, and Winter Lager.
     
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  11. soarinsteven

    soarinsteven Initiate (75) Sep 20, 2020 Illinois

    That's a real shame. My dad and I look forward to Old Fezziwig every year. Add me to the list of people who wish they'd stop placing Sam 76 in all their variety packs.
     
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  12. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,616) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    If you happen to swing by Boston or live in MA, they’ll likely sell Fezziwig in four packs of 16 oz. cans from the tap room in Faneuil Hall like they did last year.

    I think they put Cream Stout in one year which I think fits. Also Chocolate Bock was always welcoming.

    Don’t forget Truly!

    Honestly they could make a winter pack with Truly, Twisted Tea, Angry Orchard, Boston Lager, Sam ‘76, and Old Fezziwig and I might buy it over this years.
     
  13. Ranbot

    Ranbot Defender (644) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I wonder how sales would go if Fezziwig was released as seasonal 4-pack. Of course there would be a premium price on it, but the people who over the years were buying a winter seasonal mix 12 just for Fezziwig were already paying a premium.
     
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  14. adrock314

    adrock314 Zealot (550) Apr 14, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I'm told 76 and New England IPA are going to be updated and reintroduced so hopefully this is the last time 76 ends up in seasonal variety packs. Supposedly Sam is going to move those 2 beers to a new line marketed to be more contemporary and/or hip, but still be under the SA nameplate. Or that could be bad info and completely incorrect :grimacing:
     
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  15. Scotchboy

    Scotchboy Poo-Bah (2,124) Dec 7, 2010 Idaho
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    Came in here to post that if they offered the Cream Stout and Chocolate Bock I’d buy two cases. You beat me too it.

    I like those two brews a lot, nostalgia from my beginnings in craft beer...
     
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  16. russpowell

    russpowell Poo-Bah (10,447) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    Not sure if I will ever buy them again. Not sure what market they are shooting for, but they seem soul/rudderless. That or they have just quit this market
     
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  17. ESHBG

    ESHBG Disciple (337) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I'm confused, their seasonal packs have been four beers for a while now but this one is six? If this is legit maybe this is one of those certain retailers only packs?
     
  18. davedog_7

    davedog_7 Initiate (95) Jun 26, 2017 Georgia

    They've been slowly pulling their secondary beers off the shelves.

    Irish Red, Cream Stout, and even Boston Ale have all but gone away, at least where I am. They still list Boston Ale on their website, but I haven't seen it in months at the largest stores in my area where I used to always be able to find it.

    Now, if they were flat-out losing money on these (along w/ the 'traditional' Winter Classics packs from a few years back), then of course they have to do what they have to do.

    If they thought they could sell other beers better or felt a change in the winds and wanting to stay ahead of things, then shame on them.

    Regardless, I may buy a 6-pack of BL once or twice a year, but that will be it. Used to buy one of their beers just about every time I stocked up for the week/weekend.
     
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  19. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Disciple (360) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    Last year they released the Winter pack with 6: fezzi, porter, chocolate bock, winter lager, Boston lager, and 76. I think prior to that the Fall pack was only 4 (could be wrong). I was hoping for that same offering this year without 76.

    Anyways, I'll be another who does not buy it this year. Last year the Winter pack was the only one I bought and I bought a few packs, but I will not do it this year if Old Fezziwig is replaced with an IPA and 76 is still there. Unbelievable......
     
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  20. ESHBG

    ESHBG Disciple (337) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Ah okay, I didn't realize that. Odd that all seasonal packs are four beers except for winter; this year summer and fall were definitely four beers. I don't buy SA anymore but they have had end displays at the stores I shop in so it caught my attention.
     
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  21. Treyliff

    Treyliff Poo-Bah (4,467) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    It's been years since SA made a seasonal pack that I wanted to buy. I used to buy the Fall and Winter every year. This seems to be the general consensus if you watch the reaction to their social media posts. It seems like they are moving to accommodate the casual light lager drinkers, rather than the craft beer fans, which would probably explain why their hard cider, seltzer and hard tea now outsell their beers.
     
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  22. jgido759

    jgido759 Disciple (307) Oct 7, 2014 New Jersey

    Damn. . . I was just in Revere, MA this past weekend. Wish I knew.
     
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  23. davedog_7

    davedog_7 Initiate (95) Jun 26, 2017 Georgia

    Not to belabor the point/thread, but I got a 6-pack of their Winter Lager. Noticed it's now 'brighter and crisper' or whatever it said.

    in the fridge now, and hoping when I try one in a couple hours I don't find that they've eff'd that up, too.
     
  24. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Poo-Bah (1,616) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    It would be cool if they named this side project “Benedict Arnold”.

    The Cream Stout is still a regular offering. Could be near you, use the beer finder on their site.

    Well I bought that around February. I doubt it’s out quite, yet, but I suppose it could be. Nice tap room regardless, worth swinging through, and I THINK the roof deck is open too.

    I got that four pack last year for $17 if I recall correctly. I can double check my post on here about it. Not sure if beer geeks would buy a Sam seasonal for that price.
     
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  25. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Poo-Bah (2,358) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    I used to love SA Winter Lager but it has really changed over the years. My review from 2004 noted the ABV at 6.94%. Now it is down to 5.6%. SA's website describes the beer as a "Spiced Wheat Bock." Can it even be considered a Bock at that low of an ABV? Either way, the beer is clearly a shell of its former self.

    I might pick up a single of it this year just to try it but I'm not buying a full sixer or that horrendous Winter Classics pack. Sam '76 isn't a bad beer it just has no place in the seasonal packs. Bring back the Fezz, Double Bock, Chocolate Bock, Cream Stout... hell, I'd even take back that Cranberry Lambic over a '76 or an IPA in there. :astonished:
     
  26. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,695) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Whoa baby! That statement does indeed deserve the :astonished: emoji. :wink:

    Cheers!
     
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  27. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Poo-Bah (2,358) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    Haha! I knew I'd stir up trouble with that comment. Bringing back traumatic memories for you? :grin:
     
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  28. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Poo-Bah (1,859) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    Not to go off topic but I havent purchased anything from SA since I can remember. If they brewed the Hallertau Imperial Pilsner again I would buy it for sure. One of the best they ever brewed IMHO
     
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  29. socon67

    socon67 Poo-Bah (2,324) Jun 18, 2010 New York
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    To not put the Fezziwig in the Winter classics, or even available as a 4/6pk, is just bad marketing strategy. This is why I've seen the steady decline of SA products being promoted by me. The holidays is a time I've found that non-craft folks tend to try a different beer. What they are doing is diluting their differentiation from all the other options available.
     
  30. Giantspace

    Giantspace Champion (822) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I have not bought a winter pack from Sam as it never looks like anything I want.

    I do really wish SN would bring the winter pack back. Those packs always had solid beers even if SNPA was always in there. I would drive down to DE and grad a few packs each of winter and celebration. I love the coffee stout.

    Enjoy
     
  31. MaltheadWeirdo

    MaltheadWeirdo Initiate (52) Nov 18, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I don't actually mind '76, but what the hell is an IPA (unless it's barleywine-strength...) doing in a winter pack, when they have so many other beers they could've brewed?
     
  32. RickBelgique

    RickBelgique Initiate (69) Jul 16, 2014 Illinois

    Adding to the confusion. As previously stated, the Winter Packs have always had 6 beers. EXCEPT for the Winter Pack that was sold at Costco a few years back. That had 4 beers. But only the Costco Winter Pack. Everybody else had Winter Packs with 6 varieties.

    Add me to the list of people passing on the Winter Pack this year. Sam 76 and American IPA are not winter beers. And without Old Fezziwig, it just ain't worth buying.
     
  33. bsp77

    bsp77 Poo-Bah (2,332) Apr 27, 2008 Minnesota
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    I gave up on their seasonal boxes years ago. I suggest you do the same.
     
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  34. Jbuitron

    Jbuitron Initiate (70) Sep 11, 2015 Illinois
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  35. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Poo-Bah (2,548) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
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    So how long until all their seasonals are just the same 4 beers in every pack?

    I understand throwing Boston Lager in every mixed pack, but '76?
     
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  36. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Initiate (140) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I have not bought a Sam Adams since it had the Cranberry Lambic (for the wife) and Old Fezzi.
    That variety pack used to be a yearly holiday tradition. No longer.
    I just have to brew my own version of Old Fezzi to get me by.
    The new holiday variety pack is a joke.
     
  37. drocpsu

    drocpsu Initiate (184) Dec 25, 2006 New Hampshire

    Bummer. The winter mixed pack was always a solid selection. I usually looked forward to having some Fezzis, Chocolate Bocks and Holiday Porters in the cold weather months. I used to like the Winter Lagers, but I liked it less and less as the years went on. Without Fezziwig or Chocolate Bock, I won’t be buying a pack this year.
     
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  38. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Disciple (360) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    Looks like their 24 packs will have the same format from what I saw on Facebook. Not sure if it's usually the same as 12 packs or not, because I don't get the cases in my area.