Anyone traded with Hoppedup616

He screwed you and is a worthless POS. Sorry man. I joined this year and am 23 trades deep with no issues other than a couple of lazy shippers. Don't give up on trading, it's awesome.

 

Hate to see these popping up more often. It sucks man, and I hope you get your due justice!

 

Double DICK Move and also BCBS isn't a wale so his excuse might add a third dick dimension to this.

 

Sorry to hear this, I wish I had access to those beers and we could send each other sympathy boxes. I assume the HF is for Hill Farmstead? Thats the last place the guy who f'ed me said he was going. They're probably sitting around HF laughing it up drinking our beers. See any Upland lambics or Cascades in those pics?

 

Lol, shit, oops, my bad. I used to think Hoppin' Frog whenever I saw HF but Hill Farmstead changed all of that. I was wondering why I hadn't seen more ISO's for a HIll Farmstead pumpkin beer, that explains it.

Be sure you add him to the bad trader list, contact oldp0rt. Unfortunately, he is becoming busier by the day. Keep your eyes open for an LIF I will try to do in the next month or two for people who got f'ed on trades. I hope you don't, but it sounds like you may qualify. Again, be sure he gets on the bad trader list and yourself as the reporting party so you don't get left out of the LIF. *Hint, hint

 

This shit is getting out of hand. Sadly.

 

Another one? Sorry to hear. I'm supposed to be getting a bottle of BA Frog's Hollow eventually, we should meet up next time I'm in Chicago (probably around Christmas). Sorry it will be after pumpkin season but it's never too late to share some good beer with good people.

 

I know it has been said 1000 times over by now, but people keep doing it - noobs should not trade with noobs. Build up some experience with vets, and then you can trade with noobs and ask them to ship first.

If everybody stuck to this rule, then the only way anyone is going to get screwed is when a vet flakes out. That does happen from time to time, but not nearly as often as it happens with noobs.

 

What makes a vet a vet though? A lot of self proclaimed vets also talk about how they only trade with regular trading partners making a noobs trading pool a little smaller. I think the noobs can trade with noobs, as long as they understand the risks they are taking. We are all adults here and should know that life isn't all roses. Stick within your means, keep the harpoons off your boat. Better yet, just stick to the fishing from the dock for a little while.

 

There aren't many vets out there that won't happily trade with a noob, as long as the noob ships first. And there are a lot more vets out there than there are noobs, so the availability pool shouldn't be a big issue.

As to what makes a vet? I dunno - it's subjective I suppose. I like to see some combination of 5-10 trades, a year on the site, and solid forum/review activity. It's flexible, but ultimately I'm looking for people who I feel are into it for the long haul. People who are more vested in the site/hobby are less likely to flake out than somebody who signs up, gets into it for 6 months, does a few trades, and then loses interest. (Which is precisely what I think happens with most bad traders - they're not malicious, they just lose interest and don't care)

Noobs can certainly trade with noobs, but it's a recipe for disaster. Bad traders, shipping problems, learning how to pack a box, send extras, etc - there's just so much that can go wrong with noob-on-noob trading. There's a lot of "insider info" worth learning from vets.

 

I would agree with this. Even though I haven't 'activily' seeked out a trade in a while, if a noob contacted me for a trade I would take the time to walk them through the process and get a trade done with them. I mostly trade with personal friends these days, off the forum of course, but I have enough BA trades to consider myself a 'vet' and I'm sure my past trading partners would say the same.

 

Better than what happened to you, unfortunately. Noob screws Noob.

 

This one sucks even worse... because the bad trader is from Ohio. OP, if you want those beers from HF, hit me up.

 

You know of a Hill Farmstead stash in Ohio???

BM sent.

 

I was going to be a jerk and say my closet... but I drank that shit.